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  • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

    Part A.

    OOPS! My naivete. I thought hubby had a sex change, not a cross dresser
    Last edited by joecct; 01-29-2016, 12:50 PM.
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    • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Part A.

      OOPS! My naivete. I thought hubby had a sex change, not a cross dresser
      She's neither a sex change nor a cross-dresser. She's a trans lesbian.

      He'd be a cross-dresser if he identified as a man but liked wearing women's clothes (Ed Wood, J. Edgar Hoover).

      She'd have had a sex change if... she had a sex change! (Caitlyn Jenner -- maybe. She's done various surgeries upstairs but I don't know whether she went downstairs too.)

      But she's simply somebody who was born with male parts who sees herself as a woman attracted to women. My understanding (which is far from encyclopedic) is that many (most?) trans people do not go through sex reassignment surgery and hormonal treatments, which are very expensive and unpleasant. I suspect they already have enough to deal with.

      I know it seems strange to those of us who are (1) old and (2) haven't been reading queer studies for the last 30 years, but the thing it isn't is complicated. All those terms are actually quite distinct and precise.
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      • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

        I couldn't care less about someone feeling like the parts don't match - people gotta be people and if he identifies with being a woman no worries, but until the parts are changed please refer to that person as a he. I think 'he'd' get more buy-in in that regard to be honest from those that are thrown off.

        btw I fully recognize the counter-argument to my statement. If he feels he's a woman trapped in a dude's body why not say, "she"? I wouldn't pound my fist on the table in favor of my opinion, but I actually could see some value of going with, "he" but saying you want to be a "she". I understand the draggers will be up in arms regardless, but some on the fence might see it more openly.
        Last edited by Slap Shot; 01-29-2016, 05:58 PM.

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          I am what I say I am, you are what you say you are. Only the person themselves gets a vote -- everybody else can pound sand.
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          • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

            As I said I am ok with that argument - just an outsiders observation.

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            • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

              Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
              As I said I am ok with that argument - just an outsiders observation.
              I know. I'm just throwing in my 2 haleru.
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              • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

                New Jersey. Wonder how the fire started?
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                • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

                  Traffic stop nets 3.5 pounds of crystal meth (link)

                  We really have a meth problem in Michigan...
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                  • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

                    Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                    Traffic stop nets 3.5 pounds of crystal meth (link)

                    We really have a meth problem in Michigan...
                    Must be something in the water out there.
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                    • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

                      Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                      Must be something in the water out there.

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                      • Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                        Must be something in the water out there.
                        Ouch. Not nice!
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                        • Re: What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

                          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                          Must be something in the water out there.
                          I see what you did there.
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