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  • Ebola - all or nothing?

    Thought Ebola deserves its own thread.

    Is it or isn't it??
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2796641/fresh-fears-passenger-flying-nigeria-jfk-dies-seat-vomiting-profusely-body-declared-ebola-free-just-cursory-exam-cdc.html
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    Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

    Everyone says "not a scare here." All it takes it one mistake. And we've had two. I ain't scared, but to dismiss it would be a very bad mistake.
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    • #3
      Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      Thought Ebola deserves its own thread.

      Is it or isn't it??
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-exam-cdc.html
      Here's an actual link to the article...
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      • #4
        Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

        It's times like these I'm glad I work away from all civilization with just 5-6 others for 8 months out of the year.

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        • #5
          Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

          I'm just worried about it mutating. But I just read an article that was a Q&A with a top scientist who said that when the flu becomes more airborne it actually becomes less virulent, so it's actually less potent because the viral concentration is lower, so mutating to become airborne may not be the end of the world.
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          • #6
            Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

            Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
            I'm just worried about it mutating. But I just read an article that was a Q&A with a top scientist who said that when the flu becomes more airborne it actually becomes less virulent, so it's actually less potent because the viral concentration is lower, so mutating to become airborne may not be the end of the world.
            I wonder if they were thinking like that in 1917-1918 when the world was battling the so called Spanish Flu? We've come a long way in the last 100 years of medicine but there are infectious agents that are still well beyond our ability to treat them. We have to control them and isolate them and contain them because bed rest, fluids and supportive treatment may just not be enough. Perhaps the saving grace with Ebola is that so far, it seems a bit more difficult to catch than other viruses. If it had the same contagion rate as, let's say, measles(back before the vaccines), I shudder to think of the death totals. If it even had the contagion rate and transmissability of the influenza viruses, we would no longer be talking about overpopulation in the world. In this country we tend to dismiss the flu as just a winter illness that some people get. The immunizations have indeed helped with that. But most years we have 30.000 - 60,000 deaths attributable to flu virus in the US and that is one of the infectious agents that we have had fairly good success with. I do not think that most are over reacting to the dangers of Ebola. I wish we had more honest and scientific information about it. I know the media(and the government) keep pushing this 21 day time frame of contagion but I honestly do not think they really know. There have been reports in the past that men who have survived the initial attack still secrete the virus in their semen for over 70 days. Not sure if that is significant but I am also not sure if other organs can sustain this organism and produce some sort of carrier state(think Typhoid Mary of the early 1900's). if that turns out to be the case, we may not be looking at the end of the beginning with this disease, we may be looking at the beginning of the end for a lot of people. As of now, I just am treating this still as a great unknown-we simply do not have enough valid experience and information about it and how this virus reacts over time. I certainly would not panic, but i would also most certainly be taking evry precaution necessary so as not to look back and say we blew our only opportunity for containment and control. Just my own medical opinion.
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            • #7
              Everybody knows the CDC knows everything, they are completely prepared so there is nothing to see here
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              • #8
                Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                Everybody knows the CDC is a political cover organization. It's not like they're doctors or anything. So believe the RWNW instead.
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                  Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                  Originally posted by hockeyplayer1015 View Post
                  It's times like these I'm glad I work away from all civilization with just 5-6 others for 8 months out of the year.
                  You're in North Dakota?
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                  • #10
                    Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                    It might be dumb to ignore it as much as we've ignored the measles making a comeback...
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                    • #11
                      Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Everybody knows the CDC is a political cover organization. It's not like they're doctors or anything. So believe the RWNW instead.
                      Good Job Brownie
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                      • #12
                        Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                        Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
                        It might be dumb to ignore it as much as we've ignored the measles making a comeback...
                        Who is "ignoring it"? Good lord, this is such a false choice.
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                          Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                          Originally posted by walrus View Post
                          Good Job Brownie
                          The glee with which the far right is actively rooting for a public health disaster is amazing. Anything in the service of your politics. People die? So what -- it will help with the midterms.
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                            Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            The glee with which the far right is actively rooting for a public health disaster is amazing. Anything in the service of your politics. People die? So what -- it will help with the midterms.
                            Glee? This coming from the guy who said Texas deserves an outbreak of Ebola, TF I think the CDC was unprepared and would have been if either party was in power hence the good job Brownie comment.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Ebola - all or nothing?

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              The glee with which the far right is actively rooting for a public health disaster
                              Either you are projecting your own misanthropy onto others or you misread the situation. I would not categorize it as "glee" nearly so much as "outrage." You are the only person I have read, seen, or heard anywhere that expressly wished that people would become ill from the virus. I really doubt that there are any people on the far right who are actively desiring that others suffer a horrible death on a widespread scale.

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