Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

[5mn_Major]

Re: Your Political Stance - 2014 Edition

Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice thinks the First Amendment (and the Constitution as a whole) only protects Christians. So I would ask, which Christians? Christians as Major defines them? Or anyone who self-identifies as Christian?

What about Jews? I assume the Old Testament was on the Mayflower.

Assuming what you say is correct...

The guy is failing the faith he proclaims as He 'would have none of that'... the position he holds as separation is a cornerstone of the American concept...and the constituencies he serves by being divisive. I don't blame Christianity for his behavior, I don't blame the judiciary process he's trying to execute, I don't blame democracy because he's elected/beholden to his constituency. This is his own doing.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Not Buddha. Not Mohammad. Not Great Spirit. The Christian God.

You forgot the Catholic God. We're talking about a Dixie state here, so it's assumed that Catholics aren't Christian, they worship the Pope!

[Bob Gray]

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Not Buddha. Not Mohammad. Not Great Spirit. The Christian God.

Still don't see where he's saying anything about Christians being the only protected people under the Constitution. Your imagination is in overdrive today. The spot you quote is where he's simply saying, and it's not a new concept, that the basis for the moral underpinnings of a nation is an acknowledgement of God. He's not saying you're forced to, just that if a society does not, bad things will happen as we no longer have those moral underpinnings. You are totally misstating what is being said (without getting into the merits of his point) to make it sound very extreme, when it isn't.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The spot you quote is where he's simply saying, and it's not a new concept, that the basis for the moral underpinnings of a nation is an acknowledgement of God. He's not saying you're forced to, just that if a society does not, bad things will happen as we no longer have those moral underpinnings.

So you can't have morals without being religious? If so, then I guess it's amazing I haven't killed anyone, stolen anyone's property, or slept with another guy's wife/girlfriend yet.

[Kepler]

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When I browsed that argument I assumed you guys were talking about this guy.

Dominion Theology is cool when I do it but terrible when you do.

[Bob Gray]

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So you can't have morals without being religious? If so, then I guess it's amazing I haven't killed anyone, stolen anyone's property, or slept with another guy's wife/girlfriend yet.

I wasn't getting into that discussion (as I said, but you apparent missed), just saying that Priceless's interpretation that the judge said only Christians should be protected under the Constitution is simply not what the judge was saying.

[Kepler]

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or slept with another guy's wife/girlfriend yet.

This could be a demand issue, not a supply choice.

[St. Clown]

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So you can't have morals without being religious? If so, then I guess it's amazing I haven't killed anyone, stolen anyone's property, or slept with another guy's wife/girlfriend yet.

By all accounts, you should be turning gay any minute now.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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This could be a demand issue, not a supply choice.

I walked into that one.

And Bob, I guess I did miss where you said you weren't going to delve into that topic. Went back over both of your previous posts and didn't see anything about it. So, if you aren't feeling up to tackling that one today, then perhaps some other time.

[Priceless]

This could be a demand issue, not a supply choice.

Rimbaud?

[Bob Gray]

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I walked into that one.

And Bob, I guess I did miss where you said you weren't going to delve into that topic. Went back over both of your previous posts and didn't see anything about it. So, if you aren't feeling up to tackling that one today, then perhaps some other time.

Hard to have a discussion about such a subject around here, anytime. I have had a few good side discussions with folks though if that would be of interest.

[Rimbaud]

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Rimbaud?

What'd I do now?

[LynahFan]

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Definitely true. I see you didn't say that the scriptures aren't without sin, or the Word isn't without sin, but rather referenced individuals (Christian or not). Indeed, it is a person that may or may not sin...not video games, pornography, guns, not a faith. People are responsible for their behavior.

So your argument has been reduced to "words don't sin," then? What are the corollaries of this fascinating position: Fish don't do jumping jacks? Coffee mugs don't build skyscrapers? Motorcycles don't host TV shows?

All are equally true and equally non-informative.

[unofan]

So your argument has been reduced to "words don't sin," then? What are the corollaries of this fascinating position: Fish don't do jumping jacks? Coffee mugs don't build skyscrapers? Motorcycles don't host TV shows?

All are equally true and equally non-informative.

Yeah, I'm back. Call me a glutton for punishment.

The dictionary definition of Christianity is, "the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies."

Major seems to think Christianity is defined simply as the scripture itself, not the actual religion(s) practiced by human beings.

But if we really want to go down this absurd path, I'd argue any mistake made in interpreting the bible leading to negative results is God's fault, and by extension Jesus's. A divine being surely knows about the concepts of brevity, conciseness, and clear writing. Why be so metaphorical in what you want your followers to do?

[burd]

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But if we really want to go down this absurd path, I'd argue any mistake made in interpreting the bible leading to negative results is God's fault, and by extension Jesus's.

Oh sure, the Holy Ghost gets another free pass. The Teflon Ghost.