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  • #706
    Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

    Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
    If you ask a question, or make an assertion, that doesn't feed one side or another's argument, you're either triggered or pout-raging. Because you can't just be curious or not share the group's opinions these days.
    There's asking a question and "just asking questions..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRxbGJuCw8

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    • #707
      Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
      There's asking a question and "just asking questions..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRxbGJuCw8
      What's so bad about Emperor Palpatine? I'm just asking...

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      • #708
        Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

        The ESPN editor kinda tries to argue Trump isn't a white supremacist because... reasons?

        http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/espn...ll-column.html

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        • #709
          Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          The ESPN editor kinda tries to argue Trump isn't a white supremacist because... reasons?

          http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/espn...ll-column.html
          I think a lot of it depends on how you define white supremacist. I don't really think he is, the only thing he cares about is himself, but can see how others think it.
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          • #710
            Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

            Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
            I think a lot of it depends on how you define white supremacist. I don't really think he is, the only thing he cares about is himself, but can see how others think it.
            If you are a sympathizer, or you condone an action you are painted with the same brush. Not all Nazis wanted to kill all the Jews, but the second you defend them or take action to help them you are with them. (read the book or see the movie Mother Night by Vonnegut if you want a great example)

            Maybe Trump isnt a White Supremacist, but he takes no action to stop them and in the best light passively defends them. (in the worst light agrees and condones their actions) As such he is one of them.
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
            -aparch

            "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
            -INCH

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            • #711
              Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

              Not to mention those groups see him as being on their side and emboldened because of what he says/does. And his rhetoric basically echoes many of their core beliefs.

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              • #712
                Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                If you are a sympathizer, or you condone an action you are painted with the same brush. Not all Nazis wanted to kill all the Jews, but the second you defend them or take action to help them you are with them. (read the book or see the movie Mother Night by Vonnegut if you want a great example)

                Maybe Trump isnt a White Supremacist, but he takes no action to stop them and in the best light passively defends them. (in the worst light agrees and condones their actions) As such he is one of them.
                The only issue I have with the "broad brush" point is that I'll defend their right to voice their opinion. I despise them, condemn them (as is my right and belief), but I won't deny them their rights just because of my opinion. So, technically, I am defending them in a way.
                Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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                • #713
                  Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                  Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                  The only issue I have with the "broad brush" point is that I'll defend their right to voice their opinion. I despise them, condemn them (as is my right and belief), but I won't deny them their rights just because of my opinion. So, technically, I am defending them in a way.
                  No there is a difference between what you say and what he says. The ACLU defended the KKK's right to speech that doesnt make them part of the KKK.

                  It is the act of actually defending what they say and how they act that takes it a step too far. You can defend their right to say racist stuff, but when you defend the racist stuff or the violent acts the racists take then you are in league with them.

                  At least that is the difference in my mind ya know.
                  "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                  -aparch

                  "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                  -INCH

                  Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                  -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                  • #714
                    Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    No there is a difference between what you say and what he says. The ACLU defended the KKK's right to speech that doesnt make them part of the KKK.

                    It is the act of actually defending what they say and how they act that takes it a step too far. You can defend their right to say racist stuff, but when you defend the racist stuff or the violent acts the racists take then you are in league with them.

                    At least that is the difference in my mind ya know.
                    I agree with that. How they act? Ok, we have issues.
                    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                    Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                    • #715
                      Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                      Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                      The only issue I have with the "broad brush" point is that I'll defend their right to voice their opinion.
                      No one is arguing you can't nor that it makes you a white supremacist. Very few people are actually trying to silence anyone so it's odd how often you bring up this point.

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                      • #716
                        Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                        No one is arguing you can't nor that it makes you a white supremacist. Very few people are actually trying to silence anyone so it's odd how often you bring up this point.
                        There were some people (not on here) that said that because I defended their right to their opinion, I was sympathizing with them and therefore I was racist. Yeah.
                        Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
                        Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens

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                        • #717
                          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                          There were some people (not on here) that said that because I defended their right to their opinion, I was sympathizing with them and therefore I was racist. Yeah.
                          Ok, but since none of us on here knew you were refuting an argument made elsewhere, do you understand why it appeared you were arguing against a straw man?

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                          • #718
                            Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                            Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            The ACLU defended the KKK's right to speech that doesnt make them part of the KKK.
                            I think the California chapter decided to stop doing that too.

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                            • #719
                              Re: Still Complaining About ESPN...

                              Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                              I think the California chapter decided to stop doing that too.
                              They did and I hate them for it. Civil Liberties are the most important things we have. The ACLU should take the heat and defend free speech.
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

                              "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                              -INCH

                              Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
                              -ScoobyDoo 12/17/2007

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                              • #720
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