Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

[Russell Jaslow]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

The committee was not in favor of teams staying at the training center in L.P.

Then the committee is filled with idiots.

There is no reason not to like it, not the least of which is costs. I thought the NCAA is all about not spending money on D3...

[NUProf]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

Then the committee is filled with idiots.

There is no reason not to like it, not the least of which is costs. I thought the NCAA is all about not spending money on D3...

They are afraid of confrontations between teams that are billeted in too close proximity to each other. They don't trust student-athletes to behave as responsible adults. That is also why the require that teams that have lost be whisked off the site so that they don't misbehave after they are eliminated from the tournament.

[LakerEagleLover]

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They are afraid of confrontations between teams that are billeted in too close proximity to each other. They don't trust student-athletes to behave as responsible adults. That is also why the require that teams that have lost be whisked off the site so that they don't misbehave after they are eliminated from the tournament.

Evacuation is not a requirement, but a team choice...and usually is based on proximity - i.e. Oswego departure from Lake Placid the years they did not make the final was Gosek's call...this year they stayed in Lewiston that night due to the drive time...no one told them to go home....

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Evacuation is not a requirement, but a team choice...and usually is based on proximity - i.e. Oswego departure from Lake Placid the years they did not make the final was Gosek's call...this year they stayed in Lewiston that night due to the drive time...no one told them to go home....

The Norwich men stayed the night and left the next day all three years that they lost in the Semifinals.

[Saints17]

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They are afraid of confrontations between teams that are billeted in too close proximity to each other. They don't trust student-athletes to behave as responsible adults. That is also why the require that teams that have lost be whisked off the site so that they don't misbehave after they are eliminated from the tournament.

From experience, there is zero tolerance for any misbehavior at the Training Center. No, I didn't do anything wrong, they do spell it out for you how they have world class athletes training there and to be respectful. If a player becomes unruly then I blame the coaching staff for not having control.

[joecct]

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Maybe its because the training center is in the middle of nowhere?

For the record, it was pointed out to me yesterday that the schools were not in favor of being in the boondocks and the committee was relaying their concerns.

[Birdwatcher]

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Maybe its because the training center is in the middle of nowhere?

For the record, it was pointed out to me yesterday that the schools were not in favor of being in the boondocks and the committee was relaying their concerns.

When you live in this area, Old Military Road, is really not considered the middle of nowhere!

[joecct]

When you live in this area, Old Military Road, is really not considered the middle of nowhere!

It's the shortcut to Potsdam. Took it a lot back in the day.

But outside of the trees, what is within a 15 minute walk?

[Birdwatcher]

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It's the shortcut to Potsdam. Took it a lot back in the day.

But outside of the trees, what is within a 15 minute walk?

Although you feel secluded, it is probably less than a fifteen minute walk from the Olympic Arena and even closer to some restaurants: http://www.yellowpages.com/lake-plac...center-3273090

[Hello]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

D3 Women likely to combine with D1 Women in the near future. Their respective Championships held same weekend and makes perfect sense to do so.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Re: Combining D3 men's and women's championship dilemma

D3 Women likely to combine with D1 Women in the near future. Their respective Championships held same weekend and makes perfect sense to do so.

I know it's been discussed in length and I'd be for it as a one-year trial, but I also hope the D3 women's committee strongly looks at the Lake Placid option for the following year combining with the men, allowing conferences time to plan their schedules accordingly so that the season could be pushed back one week without much interruption.

[PSUChamps2001]

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I'm really on the fence with this one, and like Prez said go ahead and try it for a year, but keep Lake Placid as a great alternative. I don't think you will get the support like you do in say the Lacrosse Championships. I have a feeling the DIII teams will be treated and seen as the little Mite team playing between periods at an AHL game. You know, that good excuse to get up and use the restrooms and grab a burger. Then again if the NCAA implements this "no re-entry" policy like at Lewiston and sandwich the DIII game between the DI games, maybe.

Just like when they tried combining the men's, Philly would be "okay", Boston for sure, but Tampa Florida? Anaheim California? What happens when the girls go to St. Charles, Mo? A lot of DIII teams around there. You have a hard enough time getting fans to go watch the women's teams at their own home rink, now let's make them travel hundreds of miles away?

The positives for a combined DIII men's and women's weekend outweigh the combined DI/DIII women's weekend by far. The only major positive for DI/DIII is ALL the suit and ties of the NCAA get to have their dinners and drinks together. All those high ranking ego's, I mean people, together at once. Imagine all the good things they can come up with.

[bakdraft21]

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I'm really on the fence with this one, and like Prez said go ahead and try it for a year, but keep Lake Placid as a great alternative. I don't think you will get the support like you do in say the Lacrosse Championships. I have a feeling the DIII teams will be treated and seen as the little Mite team playing between periods at an AHL game. You know, that good excuse to get up and use the restrooms and grab a burger. Then again if the NCAA implements this "no re-entry" policy like at Lewiston and sandwich the DIII game between the DI games, maybe.

Just like when they tried combining the men's, Philly would be "okay", Boston for sure, but Tampa Florida? Anaheim California? What happens when the girls go to St. Charles, Mo? A lot of DIII teams around there. You have a hard enough time getting fans to go watch the women's teams at their own home rink, now let's make them travel hundreds of miles away?

The positives for a combined DIII men's and women's weekend outweigh the combined DI/DIII women's weekend by far. The only major positive for DI/DIII is ALL the suit and ties of the NCAA get to have their dinners and drinks together. All those high ranking ego's, I mean people, together at once. Imagine all the good things they can come up with.

Now THAT would be a serious smokiyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy room

[OSU2010]

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I'm really on the fence with this one, and like Prez said go ahead and try it for a year, but keep Lake Placid as a great alternative. I don't think you will get the support like you do in say the Lacrosse Championships. I have a feeling the DIII teams will be treated and seen as the little Mite team playing between periods at an AHL game. You know, that good excuse to get up and use the restrooms and grab a burger. Then again if the NCAA implements this "no re-entry" policy like at Lewiston and sandwich the DIII game between the DI games, maybe.

Just like when they tried combining the men's, Philly would be "okay", Boston for sure, but Tampa Florida? Anaheim California? What happens when the girls go to St. Charles, Mo? A lot of DIII teams around there. You have a hard enough time getting fans to go watch the women's teams at their own home rink, now let's make them travel hundreds of miles away?

The positives for a combined DIII men's and women's weekend outweigh the combined DI/DIII women's weekend by far. The only major positive for DI/DIII is ALL the suit and ties of the NCAA get to have their dinners and drinks together. All those high ranking ego's, I mean people, together at once. Imagine all the good things they can come up with.

Idk I can see some positives to having FF in areas where there arne't DIII programs, there are alot of division III schools that have hockey programs out west (true west) but they don't have hockey programs because they're too far from the competition so they play ACHA, if we were to expand our reach I could see a new western division forming and the current western division becoming mid-west

[PrezdeJohnson09]

Idk I can see some positives to having FF in areas where there arne't DIII programs, there are alot of division III schools that have hockey programs out west (true west) but they don't have hockey programs because they're too far from the competition so they play ACHA, if we were to expand our reach I could see a new western division forming and the current western division becoming mid-west

Stevenson in Maryland calls your bluff...they've had a women's team for two years and no one will take them...