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  • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
    Really? So I can shoot you and throw the gun in the ocean and I should be acquitted? Sweet!
    You do know how reasonable doubt works, right?

    Yes, some guilty parties go free, just as some of the innocents are convicted. That's how the system works, unfortunately.

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    • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      One of the principles of the far right is that common sense and law are always either/or. Don't you realize that as soon as you pass a law people stop using their heads? That's why laws are bad.

      That and making a law such as I mentioned is one short step away from a national registry and Barry Hussein coming for your guns.

      Slippery slope and all that...

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      • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

        Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
        Yeah, you represent the other side of the coin.

        Would it hurt to pass common sense laws that make it illegal for a minor to handle an automatic weapon, even with parental consent?

        Go ahead and argue that one.
        It's likely already covered under negligence of some sort or another. Who would give that kid a fully automatic weapon and consider that a smart move? The gun range's owner likely wants to side with the customer because he's somewhat obligated to do that - he owns the bldg in which the instructor was killed, he has his own legal concerns in this. While I've never had much to do with guns (fired a pistol once, no rifles or shotguns), I know a lot of people who were introduced to small caliber rifles and small gauge shotguns, but never something like an Uzi. It's very likely some sort of negligent homocide charge could come from this for the parent and possibly the gun range's owner for not having good policy in place surrounding young children and automatic weapons.
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        • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          It's likely already covered under negligence of some sort or another. Who would give that kid a fully automatic weapon and consider that a smart move? The gun range's owner likely wants to side with the customer because he's somewhat obligated to do that - he owns the bldg in which the instructor was killed, he has his own legal concerns in this. While I've never had much to do with guns (fired a pistol once, no rifles or shotguns), I know a lot of people who were introduced to small caliber rifles and small gauge shotguns, but never something like an Uzi. It's very likely some sort of negligent homocide charge could come from this for the parent and possibly the gun range's owner for not having good policy in place surrounding young children and automatic weapons.
          LOL. It'll be a cold day in hell before charges are filed in Arizona for what happened.
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          • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

            Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
            That and making a law such as I mentioned is one short step away from a national registry and Barry Hussein coming for your guns.

            Slippery slope and all that...
            It's why they are anti-abortion while having a high rate of abortions. "We must repeal this law because we can't stop ourselves from having abortions!!!! When there's a law we can't exercise free will!!!"

            'Splains a lot, actually.
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            • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              When it destroys a 9 year old girls life. Yes.
              A little girl riding her bike, oops and goes into the road by mistake, lets pass a law that little girls can't ride bikes.
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              • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                Originally posted by walrus View Post
                A little girl riding her bike, oops and goes into the road by mistake, lets pass a law that little girls can't ride bikes.

                On the flip side, 9 year olds should be allowed to drive cars. And drink. And fcuk.

                Let's get rid of these bothersome laws!

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                • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                  Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                  Yeah, you represent the other side of the coin.

                  Would it hurt to pass common sense laws that make it illegal for a minor to handle an automatic weapon, even with parental consent?

                  Go ahead and argue that one.
                  My kid couldn't handle an air soft gun(broke a computer monitor) No way am I letting any kid fire an Uzi, I don't need a law to be smart enough to understand that. I think you'll find adults who have had the same thing happen when firing an automatic weapon, the recoil takes the gun over their heads and they end up spraying bullets everywhere.
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                  • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                    Originally posted by walrus View Post
                    My kid couldn't handle an air soft gun(broke a computer monitor) No way am I letting any kid fire an Uzi, I don't need a law to be smart enough to understand that. I think you'll find adults who have had the same thing happen when firing an automatic weapon, the recoil takes the gun over their heads and they end up spraying bullets everywhere.

                    So if I'm confident as a parent that my 9 year old can drive a car, it should be okay? At least in the eyes of the law?


                    Pretty stupid case you're making... don't you think?

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                    • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                      Originally posted by Gurtholfin View Post
                      On the flip side, 9 year olds should be allowed to... fcuk.

                      Let's get rid of these bothersome laws!
                      Catholic priests agree with you!

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                      • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                        It's likely already covered under negligence of some sort or another. Who would give that kid a fully automatic weapon and consider that a smart move? The gun range's owner likely wants to side with the customer because he's somewhat obligated to do that - he owns the bldg in which the instructor was killed, he has his own legal concerns in this. While I've never had much to do with guns (fired a pistol once, no rifles or shotguns), I know a lot of people who were introduced to small caliber rifles and small gauge shotguns, but never something like an Uzi. It's very likely some sort of negligent homocide charge could come from this for the parent and possibly the gun range's owner for not having good policy in place surrounding young children and automatic weapons.
                        Exactly.

                        You have to be a moron to hand a 9 year old kid a loaded Uzi. Sounds like plenty of morons were involved.

                        But while they're at it, they should probably pass a law that forbids 3 year olds from flying a plane. We need to prohibit 6 year olds from attempting to swim the Pacific. And don't forget to ban the 5 year olds from walking across the Mojave Desert. The sheer volume of stupidity, and stupid stunts attempted, in this world will never cease to amaze me.
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                        • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          Punishing this man would serve no great purpose, you're not going to prevent such actions in the future.
                          Punishing drug users serves no great purpose, you're not going to prevent such actions in the future.

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                          • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                            Originally posted by walrus View Post
                            A little girl riding her bike, oops and goes into the road by mistake, lets pass a law that little girls can't ride bikes.
                            This is a gun range. Very easy, smart, targeted law could be passed that would cover it very easily. No grand swoop. No slippery slope.
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                            • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                              Exactly.

                              You have to be a moron to hand a 9 year old kid a loaded Uzi. Sounds like plenty of morons were involved.

                              But while they're at it, they should probably pass a law that forbids 3 year olds from flying a plane. We need to prohibit 6 year olds from attempting to swim the Pacific. And don't forget to ban the 5 year olds from walking across the Mojave Desert. The sheer volume of stupidity, and stupid stunts attempted, in this world will never cease to amaze me.
                              We already have a law that prevents 3 year olds from flying planes.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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                              • Re: Nice Plant #7: Get me off of this planet

                                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                                Exactly.

                                You have to be a moron to hand a 9 year old kid a loaded Uzi. Sounds like plenty of morons were involved.
                                Uh uh! Reasonable doubt. Maybe they were all rocket scientists who just got unlucky.

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