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  • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

    Why am I not surprised?

    al Qaeda is getting jealous of all the attention being given to ISIS, and wants to get back into the limelight.

    WASHINGTON—The U.S. is tracking multiple terror plots based out of Syria that target the West—threats that current and former intelligence officials say have been traced to al Qaeda's Syrian affiliate and not to Islamic State, the extremist group that has seized the world's attention.
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    • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

      The French have joined in on the fight against the Islamic State. Ok, we can all breath a sigh of relief! Oh wait....
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      • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Gentlemen - please get on the same page...
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...ml?tid=HP_more
        Don't employ US ground troops, there's no need. There should be enough regional groundforces to crush IS like the cockroaches they are (quoting my new hero Kevin O'Leary), along with using Western Air Support. The moderates in the region don't want the destabilization to continue. Let them fix it.
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        • Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
          Why am I not surprised?

          al Qaeda is getting jealous of all the attention being given to ISIS, and wants to get back into the limelight.
          Not that it matters, but concerns about too much focus on ISIS doesn't come from Al Qaeda.

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          • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
            Don't employ US ground troops, there's no need. There should be enough regional groundforces to crush IS like the cockroaches they are (quoting my new hero Kevin O'Leary), along with using Western Air Support. The moderates in the region don't want the destabilization to continue. Let them fix it.
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            • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

              Pessimism (realism?) says ISIS won't be easy to kill off, but there's an element that maybe makes the difference. Most homespun religious terror groups have some public support so they can mingle with the locals and expect some help. If we're right about ISIS (always a big if), everybody hates them -- especially the locals. Maybe that makes them more vulnerable.
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              • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                Vietnam 1955-1964. Then it blew up.
                I don't think this is equivilent to that. You had a country feeding revoltutionaries in another country that slowly escalated. Here you have people funneling into a region but are not supported directly by any one country. In hindsight, had S Vietnam fell in 1960, it would not have done anything to affect the US, so we should not have gone into there either. But the Cold War fear of Communism was real at that time and they (the US) acted accordingly.

                I suppose this IS deal could blow up like Nam in 64 and let's say they take over Iraq. It's still not our problem and wouldn't be our problem unless they A) attack US conitental soil or B) get methods to deliver explosives from long range or C) get nuclear. A is the most likely, but I think they'll be content killing an occasional hostage or maybe attacking an embassy. The fact that they are p/o'ing the locals will help fuel the regoinal powers to act, but Obama has to clearly tell them what our plan is. Right now they are sitting back and assuming the West will try to clean this up for them (again), but history shows the West is not effective in dealing with issues like this because we don't commit enough ground forces to do the job right.
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                • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                  I don't think this is equivilent to that. You had a country feeding revoltutionaries in another country that slowly escalated. Here you have people funneling into a region but are not supported directly by any one country. In hindsight, had S Vietnam fell in 1960, it would not have done anything to affect the US, so we should not have gone into there either. But the Cold War fear of Communism was real at that time and they (the US) acted accordingly.

                  I suppose this IS deal could blow up like Nam in 64 and let's say they take over Iraq. It's still not our problem and wouldn't be our problem unless they A) attack US conitental soil or B) get methods to deliver explosives from long range or C) get nuclear. A is the most likely, but I think they'll be content killing an occasional hostage or maybe attacking an embassy. The fact that they are p/o'ing the locals will help fuel the regoinal powers to act, but Obama has to clearly tell them what our plan is. Right now they are sitting back and assuming the West will try to clean this up for them (again), but history shows the West is not effective in dealing with issues like this because we don't commit enough ground forces to do the job right.
                  If the locals prove incompetent to deal with ISIS/L who IS going to deal with them?

                  Granted at this point ISIS/L does not have superpower backing them like the Soviet Union backed North Vietnam, but if the sentiment is to bomb them up to the Stone Age who is going to do it?

                  There was a coalition of sorts in the Vietnam War - mainly of SEATO signers, but most of them deserted the cause by the time Milhous took over and ended the conflict (after a surge or two).

                  Quagmire?
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                  • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                    Gigging giggity?
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                    • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                      So Russia flies combat jets within 33 miles or so of Alaska and we send up fighters to chase them off.

                      Ah, the good old days.
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                      • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        So Russia flies combat jets within 33 miles or so of Alaska and we send up fighters to chase them off.

                        Ah, the good old days.
                        Good old days? That happens all the time. Like more than once a year.
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                        • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                          Yeah, the only reason that's a news story is because Russia has been acting all "AHHH MOTHERLAND!1!!" again the past year.

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                            Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                            It's still not our problem and wouldn't be our problem unless they A) attack US conitental soil...
                            Hawaii is fair game though?

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                            • Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                              Yeah, the only reason that's a news story is because Russia has been acting all "AHHH MOTHERLAND!1!!" again the past year.
                              Yeah every few years it pops up for one reason or another, everybody freaks out for a week and then goes on to the next thing.

                              Meanwhile those of us in Anchorage go "meh, not like the F-22's go streaking out of JBER for nothing..."
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                              But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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                              • Re: The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

                                Originally posted by GrinCDXX View Post
                                Hawaii is fair game though?
                                Correct
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