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  • Re: Minnesota Twins 2014: The Quest for .500

    Originally posted by Greyeagle View Post
    Would make for fun post game interviews with Gladden!
    How many of his players would he have to cold cock before they all made it a point to leg out each and every ground out?
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      Reported that Rick Anderson will not return.
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      • Re: Minnesota Twins 2014: The Quest for .500

        Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
        Reported that Rick Anderson will not return.
        If Anderson returned firing Gardy would have all been for naught.
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        • Re: Minnesota Twins 2014: The Quest for .500

          Here is the problem the Twins have, and it won't be solved by firing Gardy, or by mercifully letting Anderson leave. It has to do with pitching, and the myth management keeps perpetuating that they have "live arms" in the system. No they don't. They maybe do if you consider a live arm to be what's hanging from the shoulder of my 69 year old aunt.

          I think it was the Cardinals who started it, but it's moved on to teams like the Royals and others. You draft pitchers who throw the ball hard. Period. You draft or sign 30 of them. If only 4 work out, great.

          Until they do that, forget about it.
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          • Re: Minnesota Twins 2014: The Quest for .500

            Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
            Here is the problem the Twins have, and it won't be solved by firing Gardy, or by mercifully letting Anderson leave. It has to do with pitching, and the myth management keeps perpetuating that they have "live arms" in the system. No they don't. They maybe do if you consider a live arm to be what's hanging from the shoulder of my 69 year old aunt.

            I think it was the Cardinals who started it, but it's moved on to teams like the Royals and others. You draft pitchers who throw the ball hard. Period. You draft or sign 30 of them. If only 4 work out, great.

            Until they do that, forget about it.
            I don't buy the hard-throwing pitcher argument. Pitchers keep throwing harder and harder as the years go on, but batting averages have kept pace, batters adjust to the faster pitches. Find pitchers who will take the time to learn their opponents' tendencies, what they can and can't hit, and then demonstrate control on the mound. The most prolific that I've seen in my days was Greg Maddox. Maddox's fastball was in the 80s, but he was still dominant. And with him not throwing so hard, he played for a much longer time, proved much more durable that what you're seeing from the average hardball pitcher today. These kids now are stressing their arms that they just aren't going to be able to have that 12-year career anymore. They just won't.
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            • Re: Minnesota Twins 2014: The Quest for .500

              I think the real point is to not try to convert every pitcher to be the same. If you have a fireballer with high pitch count and K's let him be that. It's ok to have variety. Not everyone needs to be a control pitcher with an 88 mph fastball.
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                Also, it seems like Paul Molitor will be named manager any minute.
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                • Re: Minnesota Twins 2014: The Quest for .500

                  Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                  Here is the problem the Twins have, and it won't be solved by firing Gardy, or by mercifully letting Anderson leave. It has to do with pitching, and the myth management keeps perpetuating that they have "live arms" in the system. No they don't. They maybe do if you consider a live arm to be what's hanging from the shoulder of my 69 year old aunt.

                  I think it was the Cardinals who started it, but it's moved on to teams like the Royals and others. You draft pitchers who throw the ball hard. Period. You draft or sign 30 of them. If only 4 work out, great.

                  Until they do that, forget about it.
                  It is exactly this. I watched the 9th to the 18th innings the other day of the Giants vs. the Nationals. Litterally the last 60 outs of the game. In that time no pitcher was brought into the game who couldn't throw a 94MPH fastball. There will be some rare exceptions such as that soft tossing Red Sox closer in '13, but quit using 4-5 bullpen spots on guys who can't bring the heat.

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                    Picked up tickets for the Twins @ Pirates series in May.
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                    • Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
                      Picked up tickets for the Twins @ Pirates series in May.
                      Good work. Hopefully we're still relevant by then.
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                        Johan Santana signed a 1 yr minors deal with Toronto. So no homecoming for the Twins.
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                          Meh. Screw him.
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                            Mauer break .300 and hit at least 10 dingers this year? He has hit a total of 13 homers at Target Field. 13.
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                              Twins open with the Gophers today and Red Sox tomorrow.
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                                Apparently this team isn't exciting anyone. Though they have won 2 straight division series to move into 3rd.
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