He's dead, Jim.

[Rover]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

That's the word, but Goddell is from Western NY and there are a few guys that want to buy it (Pegula of the Sabres). I think screwing over one of the most loyal fan bases wouldn't go over well. Team sells out a lot of the games and has a loyal following. I think they stay in Buffalo, but I'm not certain on that.

Read something fascinating about the economics of the Bills playing in Buffalo a few years back. The gist of it is that Ralph Wilson is the only person who can make money playing football in Buffalo, because he owns the team and stadium outright given that he founded it 60 years ago, and he has no debt. Were you to purchase that team now, you'd be taking on significant debt and would not be able to turn a profit. Now this might be before some of the new TV contracts were signed, but aside from Pagula does anybody have that kind of money to throw around?

[MountieBoyOz]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Read something fascinating about the economics of the Bills playing in Buffalo a few years back. The gist of it is that Ralph Wilson is the only person who can make money playing football in Buffalo, because he owns the team and stadium outright given that he founded it 60 years ago, and he has no debt. Were you to purchase that team now, you'd be taking on significant debt and would not be able to turn a profit. Now this might be before some of the new TV contracts were signed, but aside from Pagula does anybody have that kind of money to throw around?

Tom Golisano does and so does Danny Wegman, but Wegman doesn't like parting with his money and Golisano did terrible as Sabres owner. Jim Kelly had a group that wanted to buy the team, but now he's fighting his cancer again. I've heard everyone to Trump, to Bon Jovi, to Rogers of Canada. I'm really not confident the Bills will be in Buffalo on the next decade.

[SteveP]

Tom Golisano does and so does Danny Wegman, but Wegman doesn't like parting with his money and Golisano did terrible as Sabres owner. Jim Kelly had a group that wanted to buy the team, but now he's fighting his cancer again. I've heard everyone to Trump, to Bon Jovi, to Rogers of Canada. I'm really not confident the Bills will be in Buffalo on the next decade.

There's no way the Bills move to Toronto until there's a new stadium with parking and the Ontario government relaxes the liquor law to allow tailgating.

[RaceBoarder]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

There's no way the Bills move to Toronto until there's a new stadium with parking and the Ontario government relaxes the liquor law to allow tailgating.

Can't have any open booze in Ontario

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Can't have any open booze in Ontario

I'm guessing the law has to do with gatherings larger than X number of people?

[The Rube]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

I'm worried about Jim Kelly right now. Recurrence of cancer, more surgery, he's not doing well.

[Hammer]

I'm worried about Jim Kelly right now. Recurrence of cancer, more surgery, he's not doing well.

I saw that. That's trouble.

[jericho]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Mantecore, the White Tiger that attacked (or saved) Roy back in 2003. He was 17.

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/p...ar-dies-n62171

[SteveP]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Can't have any open booze in Ontario

Not unless it's changed since I left in '94 -- pretty sure it's only at special events, not tailgating.

[Ralph Baer]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Mantecore, the White Tiger that attacked (or saved) Roy back in 2003. He was 17.

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/p...ar-dies-n62171

I don't recall hearing the "saved" option back then.

[MaizeRage]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Can't have any open booze in Ontario

It's my understanding of Toronto law that any booze in public must be contained within a public official, such as mayor.

[SteveP]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

No good news about Jim Kelly.

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?story...39&src=desktop

Doctors treating former Buffalo Bills quarterback Jim Kelly for oral cancer have canceled surgery but will proceed with chemotherapy and radiation treatment, his wife announced Wednesday.

"At this point and time surgery is not the best option for Jim," Jill Kelly wrote on her Facebook page. "The cancer is in areas that surgery cannot successfully eradicate."

"Jim Kelly's condition remains very treatable and potentially curable," said Dr. Peter D. Costantino, who will direct Kelly's treatment at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City. "Our immediate focus is on controlling his pain and beginning the process of eradicating the cancer."

[The Rube]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Man, I hope he makes it through this. You want to talk about being a MAN. Like, old-school Frank Sinatra style MAN, and not some pansy-arse whiner? Jim's a man's man. This article about him backs up everything I just said:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...es-cancer-loss

[Bob Gray]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Man, I hope he makes it through this. You want to talk about being a MAN. Like, old-school Frank Sinatra style MAN, and not some pansy-arse whiner? Jim's a man's man. This article about him backs up everything I just said:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...es-cancer-loss

I knew he had been through some things, but I didn't realize the half of it. Now here's a guy people should point to when looking for a role model for their kids.

[SteveP]

Re: He's dead, Jim.

Former defense & energy secretary James Schlesinger, 85