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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    when conversing with TTT it is more about the smack and less about facts and rational thinking.
    See, ARM *gets it*. It's like what Stephen Colbert calls "truthiness" --

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    Wasn't brooky (I think it was brooky) then choosing to resort to high school teams? Not the worst idea.
    Hill Murray would clean house in HE.
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    Hill Murray would clean house in HE.
    For that matter, so would Benilde-St Margaret's and the rest of the top teams of section 6. And boom goes the dynamite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    Sorry -- poor transition on my part from HS to juniors, but when conversing with TTT it is more about the smack and less about facts and rational thinking.
    TTT talks more smack at season's end as he nervously watches the WCHA's Holy Trinity toppling BC's house of cards each March.

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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by mnpokecheck View Post
    WCHA's Holy Trinity
    The Frost, The Brandt, and The Holy Kessel*

    *The Holy Kessel being there in spirit, of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
    The Frost, The Brandt, and The Holy Kessel*

    *The Holy Kessel being there in spirit, of course
    Not the three I was thinking, but I like yours better...lol.

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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Lots of consensus this week.

    Week XIX Posters Poll

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    Rank Votes  Team (1st place votes)  Range   Last week (change)
      1. 100    Minnesota (10)          1-1     1st (0)
      2.  87    Clarkson                2-3     3rd (+1)
      3.  83    Wisconsin               2-3     2nd (-1)
      4.  70    Boston College          4-4     4th (0)
      5.  60    Cornell                 5-5     6th (+1)
      6.  45    Harvard                 6-8     5th (-1)
      7.  37    Quinnipiac              6-8     7th (0)
      8.  31    North Dakota            6-9     8th (0)
      9.  20    Mercyhurst              7-10    9th (0)
     10.  10    Northeastern            6-NR    10th (0)
    
    Also Receiving Votes:
           5    Robert Morris           9-NR    ARV
           2    Minnesota-Duluth        10-NR   ARV
      
           
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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Good to see Wisconsin down to third, though I continue to believe they should also be behind Assabet Valley.

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    Pokechecker Index for the week:

    KRACH has been the most accurate ranking all year

    1) 1-1-1-1=4 Minnesota
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    2) 2-2.5-2-2=8.5 Wisconsin
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    3) 3-2.5-5-3=13.5 Clarkson
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    4) 4-5-4-4=17 Cornell
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    5) 5-4-7-5=21 Boston College
    6) 6-6-6-6=24 Harvard
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    7) 7-9.5-3-10.5=30 UND
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    8) 9-8-9-8.5=34.5 Mercyhurst
    9) 10-7-10-8=35 Quinnipiac
    10) 8-9.5-11-7.5=36 Robert Morse

    2 of those last 3 teams will be in the NCAA, I'm betting Quinnipiac will be one of them
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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    Pokechecker Index for the week:

    KRACH has been the most accurate ranking all year

    1) 1-1-1-1=4 Minnesota
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    2) 2-2.5-2-2=8.5 Wisconsin
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    3) 3-2.5-5-3=13.5 Clarkson
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    4) 4-5-4-4=17 Cornell
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    5) 5-4-7-5=21 Boston College
    6) 6-6-6-6=24 Harvard
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    7) 7-9.5-3-10.5=30 UND
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    8) 9-8-9-8.5=34.5 Mercyhurst
    9) 10-7-10-8=35 Quinnipiac
    10) 8-9.5-11-7.5=36 Robert Morse

    2 of those last 3 teams will be in the NCAA, I'm betting Quinnipiac will be one of them
    Wait, there's a ranking that has North Dakota in third?
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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
    Wait, there's a ranking that has North Dakota in third?
    I think Rutter has them in the 3 spot.

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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by OnMAA View Post
    I think Rutter has them in the 3 spot.
    That's.......... a bit silly I think.
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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
    That's.......... a bit silly I think.
    Silly or not. It is based on a mathematical model. Not going to knock Rutter, as it has been proven to be a fairly accurate mathematical predictor model over the years. I think it reflects the fact that the WCHA has a strong inter conference record. It does not throw out games vs weak teams, so that is where it may skew things a bit compared to RPI etc. It just looks at Wins and Losses, not margins of victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnMAA View Post
    Silly or not. It is based on a mathematical model. Not going to knock Rutter, as it has been proven to be a fairly accurate mathematical predictor model over the years. I think it reflects the fact that the WCHA has a strong inter conference record. It does not throw out games vs weak teams, so that is where it may skew things a bit compared to RPI etc. It just looks at Wins and Losses, not margins of victory.
    Rutter does seem to be quite the outlier this year though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnMAA View Post
    . It is based on a mathematical model.
    and there is your problem. As I mentioned previously in another thread, predicting human behavior based upon a mathematical model, though once in vogue, has been thoroughly discredited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    ...has been thoroughly discredited.
    oh
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnMAA View Post
    It does not throw out games vs weak teams, so that is where it may skew things a bit compared to RPI etc. It just looks at Wins and Losses, not margins of victory.
    RPI, KRACH, and Rutter all just look at wins and losses, not margin of victory. And the reason RPI has to throw out games against weak teams is because it is so flawed that it wants to penalize a team for winning those games. While I don't think UND is actually the third-best team, it has defeated each of the top three, so I think NoDak is better than the 10th team, for sure.

    For comparison, Robin Locke does consider margin of victory in his rankings, and he has UND at No. 4:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokechecker View Post
    and there is your problem. As I mentioned previously in another thread, predicting human behavior based upon a mathematical model, though once in vogue, has been thoroughly discredited.
    This will come as a surprise to actuaries.

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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    Carrying on with the poster's poll this week. Any lurkers around for the NCAA tournament are welcome to join in.

    1) Minnesota -- Dumb

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    2) Clarkson -- Didn't see that coming. Still pretty close with Wisconsin.

    3) Wisconsin -- Not really playing all that great lately.

    4) Cornell -- Didn't see that coming. Quality title win in a quality conference.

    5) Boston College -- Facepalm

    6) Harvard -- I don't really have anything new to add on them this week, pretty much the same story as it has been the last few. Nothing special.

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    7) North Dakota -- Didn't expect them to beat Wisconsin. But Wisconsin seems to be in a bit of a slump. Still, really really nice win.

    8) Quinnipiac -- If you didn't look at the standings every week and physically see them sitting on the tournament bubble you wouldn't have even known they were there.

    9) Mercyhurst -- Dominated RIT in the loss, but it's RIT, so yeah.

    10) Boston University -- Jerks.
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    Re: USCHO Women's Hockey Posters Poll

    1) Minnesota
    2) Clarkson
    3) Wisconsin
    4) Cornell
    5) BC
    6) North Dakota
    7) Harvard
    8) Quinnipiac
    9) Boston University
    10) Mercyhurst

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