Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season

[llama]

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C'mon man, Oswego lost twice to Utica & lost once to Plattsburgh. Where's the strength in the teams they've beaten? Plymouth State? You barley beat Hobart...

On one hand, you point to the win vs Hobart as justification for a higher ranking. On the other, you make the crack above that Oswego "barely beat Hobart"...like Hobart is a bottom-of-the-barrel team that OSU should have crushed.

Can't have it both ways, so which is it?

[jerrynu26]

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On one hand, you point to the win vs Hobart as justification for a higher ranking. On the other, you make the crack above that Oswego "barely beat Hobart"...like Hobart is a bottom-of-the-barrel team that OSU should have crushed.

Can't have it both ways, so which is it?

Yikes, bringing logic into this?

[llama]

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Yikes, bringing logic into this?

No choice - someone had already beat me to poking fun at "barley"

[admiral0417]

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Well, a Plattsburg victory would even the all time series record to 1-1.

I do remember that game. I think Utica had about 3 shots from inside our blueline all night and scored on 2 of them. It was like a Plattsburgh power play the whole game. I don't think the Zamboni even cleaned the ice around our end. That was a down year for Cardinal hockey and we had some goaltending problems.

[Pioneers#1]

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On one hand, you point to the win vs Hobart as justification for a higher ranking. On the other, you make the crack above that Oswego "barely beat Hobart"...like Hobart is a bottom-of-the-barrel team that OSU should have crushed.

Can't have it both ways, so which is it?

That is true, I didn't realize what I said there

I think Hobart is vastly overrated too, looking back on there schedule and who they've beaten through their 14 wins so far. However, if you take out Hobart, Utica still has beaten Amherst and Oswego (Top 10 teams).

I'm feeling like this argument is a waste at this point being that the poll on USCHO is an absolute joke.

[Pioneers#1]

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No choice - someone had already beat me to poking fun at "barley"

I apologize for my insignificant grammatical errors. My first language was not English and I did not learn to passively read and write American English until the age of 14. I'm 19 now.

Hey, compared to many on this forum, who "spel lik dis, u kno" my grammar is superb. ...and English isn't a second language to them, it is to me.

[llama]

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I apologize for my insignificant grammatical errors. My first language was not English and I did not learn to passively read and write American English until the age of 14. I'm 19 now.

Hey, compared to many on this forum, who "spel lik dis, u kno" my grammar is superb. ...and English isn't a second language to them, it is to me.

Don't mind your spelling - I was really just giving jerrynu props for a good one-liner.

[norm1909]

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Don't mind your spelling - I was really just giving jerrynu props for a good one-liner.

One-liner? A hockey player that gets hurt his first time out - or someone who only syncs with 3 or 4 guys on the team?

[llama]

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That is true, I didn't realize what I said there

I think Hobart is vastly overrated too, looking back on there schedule and who they've beaten through their 14 wins so far. However, if you take out Hobart, Utica still has beaten Amherst and Oswego (Top 10 teams).

I'm feeling like this argument is a waste at this point being that the poll on USCHO is an absolute joke.

If it is a joke you don't seem to be laughing.

Another way to look at "quality wins" would be to assume Nuemann, M'ville, Oz, UC, Amherst and Genny get ranked by the NCAA in one (or more) of the three weekly polls....which is a somewhat reasonable guess but not certain at this point. If that were the case, then UC would currently hold a 5-1 record vs ranked opponents and Hobart would be 4-2-1. The edge goes to UC....but not by as much as you seem to think.

Disclaimer - I took a quick look so I may have missed a game for either team.

[Pioneers#1]

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If it is a joke you don't seem to be laughing.

Another way to look at "quality wins" would be to assume Nuemann, M'ville, Oz, UC, Amherst and Genny get ranked by the NCAA in one (or more) of the three weekly polls....which is a somewhat reasonable guess but not certain at this point. If that were the case, then UC would currently hold a 5-1 record vs ranked opponents and Hobart would be 4-2-1. The edge goes to UC....but not by as much as you seem to think.

Disclaimer - I took a quick look so I may have missed a game for either team.

No, you're right on the ball there, no argument from the peanut gallery this time. But like I said, I am laughing at this poll and have been ever since Utica went no where after beating Oswego on their own ice. However, when you're team does so well and goes no where, I've still got to voice my opinion and just throw it out there.

Trust me, I know it's a joke now. It just took me a while to figure that out.

[jconnor]

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I'm feeling like this argument is a waste at this point being that the poll on USCHO is an absolute joke.

I thought you had learned that weeks ago. You've said it enough times.

[llama]

Good game tonight (thought a little sloppy on both ends). Utica took advantage of the mistakes by Hobart and thats what won the game. By my count I think it was 2 breakaways and 2 rebounds and a slap shot off the post and in. While Therrien and the posts were strong for them. Hobart lost it by the bad plays and Utica tried to lose it through penalties. But Utica also responded when the Statesmen scored. Of the ECAC-W, no doubt these 2 will be the class (not at all impressed by Neumann or M-ville when I saw them though NU did beat Norwich) but they both must clean up their acts in order to make noise come NCAA time. Can't say on Utica end but I know a few key guys on Hobarts end werent healthy and playing which may or may not have been the difference but just a thought (Richard, Corcoran, and Hannah). Looking forward in 2 weeks when these 2 meet again to say the least.

"Key guys" may be an understatement, eh? Lets hope all three get healthy quick.
Didn't see the UC game. 5 goals on 23 shots....would you say any were soft goals?

[NUProf]

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One-liner? A hockey player that gets hurt his first time out - or someone who only syncs with 3 or 4 guys on the team?

A one-liner is a guy who has played with the same two other forwards all season.

[llama]

A one-liner is a guy who has played with the same two other forwards all season.

Or...... a "one-liner" = short, witty joke. (Just in case this is a random phrase only used up here in Maine).

[vcxc3200]

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"Key guys" may be an understatement, eh? Lets hope all three get healthy quick.
Didn't see the UC game. 5 goals on 23 shots....would you say any were soft goals?

Out of five.... I'd go one. The Gaffney goal was put into a half open cage with nobody back.

Hertz's goal was nice. Breakaway coming out of the box and just flat out owned broadwater.