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  • #256
    Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

    Insightful interview with Jurgen Klinsman from Wednesday's Wall St. Journal.

    Basically, he says that US players have become complacently satisfied with mediocrity because no one has ever demanded excellence from them before. He sees it as his role to develop their desire to win consistently at the highest levels and not be content merely to advance to the knockout rounds.
    "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

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    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

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    • #257
      Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

      Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
      Insightful interview with Jurgen Klinsman from Wednesday's Wall St. Journal.

      Basically, he says that US players have become complacently satisfied with mediocrity because no one has ever demanded excellence from them before. He sees it as his role to develop their desire to win consistently at the highest levels and not be content merely to advance to the knockout rounds.
      The biggest issue as I see it is lack of devlopment at the youth level, which seems more concerned with winning and playing within a system rather than allowing players to learn to 'freestyle' and play creatively. We're not going to have the numbers talent wise to compete at the basic level, but we can do so much more with the pool we currently have in an effort to compete at the adult world level.

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      • #258
        Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

        Originally posted by pirate View Post
        Really can't argue with you but that kid was 17 and he was disrupting the game; if he was a streaker or a drunk on the field, they wouldn't mind if Hazard clipped him. So, while I realize kicking the ballboy was wrong, I also don't think the youth was acting as a ballboy at the time; so, it was wrong with a lower case 'w' in my book and I don't think he should be fined or suspended. With the benefit of afterthought I would have had the ballboy escorted from the pitch, given the player a yellow and let the league sort out what to do from there.

        And I hate Chelsea.
        Actually I asked about a red card that was shown to a player after he attacked a streaker (I think) and was told the red card is issued for violence, not necessarily for violence toward another player. So if he had gone after a drunk or a streaker, he very well could have still seen red. Personally I'm opposed to giving a card for such things....

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        • #259
          Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
          Actually I asked about a red card that was shown to a player after he attacked a streaker (I think) and was told the red card is issued for violence, not necessarily for violence toward another player. So if he had gone after a drunk or a streaker, he very well could have still seen red. Personally I'm opposed to giving a card for such things....
          It seems like people are overlooking an important detail...in these soccer / futbol games, the referee has the discretion to determine what they call "stoppage time." All the Chelsea player needed to do was to walk up to the ref, point out how the ball boy was stalling, and ask for more than adequate time to be added on. No matter how frustrated the Chelsea player was over the ball boy's obvious gamesmanship, that's the nature of the game these days, the other team tries to get you to lose your cool so that you get ejected. The Chelsea player fell for it. Given the within-the-rules, low-key, non-violent alternative that was available to him, he fully deserved the red card, IMHO, if only for losing the mind game with a 17-year old. He's supposed to be the pro, not the kid!

          The whole incident was ridiculous.
          "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

          "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

          "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

          "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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          • #260
            Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
            It seems like people are overlooking an important detail...in these soccer / futbol games, the referee has the discretion to determine what they call "stoppage time." All the Chelsea player needed to do was to walk up to the ref, point out how the ball boy was stalling, and ask for more than adequate time to be added on. No matter how frustrated the Chelsea player was over the ball boy's obvious gamesmanship, that's the nature of the game these days, the other team tries to get you to lose your cool so that you get ejected. The Chelsea player fell for it. Given the within-the-rules, low-key, non-violent alternative that was available to him, he fully deserved the red card, IMHO, if only for losing the mind game with a 17-year old. He's supposed to be the pro, not the kid!

            The whole incident was ridiculous.
            I have two thoughts about your comments: 1) of course you are right, it is the best way to handle it. 2) the kid was being a dick, people like that should get a kick in the ribs once in a while

            Maybe if some other 13 year old would have been allowed to punch him in the mouth 4 years ago without being tossed from school and branded a bully, he wouldn't have turned into a 17 year old punk that thinks he can get away with being such a dick and then whining like he was a 6 year old girl.


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            • #261
              Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

              Milwaukee pretty much has a playoff spot locked up in the MISL, Baltimore's pretty close to clinching as well. There's still a bit of a dog fight for the last two playoff spots.

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              • #262
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                The most notable transfers (from what I know) at the end of the window...

                Beckham to PSG
                Brek Shea to Stoke
                Christopher Samba to QPR
                Mario Balotellia to AC Milan
                Nacho Monreal to Arsenal
                If you want to be a BADGER, just come along with me

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                • #263
                  Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

                  nice home debut for sissoko!!!
                  a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                  • #264
                    Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

                    In case anyone missed it, there's a World Cup Qualifier tomorrow. USMNT at Honduras at 4pm ET. Following the uproar from last fall, I think a lot of cable providers have added BeIN Sport; I know Time Warner has, anyway, so you might take a look even if you think you don't have it.
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                    • #265
                      Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

                      Originally posted by jmh View Post
                      In case anyone missed it, there's a World Cup Qualifier tomorrow. USMNT at Honduras at 4pm ET. Following the uproar from last fall, I think a lot of cable providers have added BeIN Sport; I know Time Warner has, anyway, so you might take a look even if you think you don't have it.
                      But the World Cup isn't for another year and a half...

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                      • #266
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                        Don't you know you are helping the terrorists if you get beIN sports.
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                        • #267
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                          Originally posted by MountieBoyOz View Post
                          Don't you know you are helping the terrorists if you get beIN sports.
                          But also help pay off Al-Gore, the mullah of polar meltdown.
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                          • #268
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                            Germany marches into Paris to play France in a match tomorrow.

                            (Insert your jokes here.)
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                            • #269
                              Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

                              Originally posted by MountieBoyOz View Post
                              Germany marches into Paris to play France in a match tomorrow.

                              (Insert your jokes here.)
                              How do the French surrender without raising their arms?
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                              • #270
                                Re: World Soccer XXIII - "Pay" Up Pompey?

                                Guatemala 1 USA 1 halftime.

                                Supposedly it's about 90 degrees F on the field and several USA players played in Europe over the weekend. Tough conditions. A tie would be great.
                                "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                                "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                                "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

                                "People generally are most impatient with those flaws in others about which they are most ashamed of in themselves." - folk wisdom

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