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Originally posted by BobbyBrady
Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostA lot of that probably depends on Shapovalov and Zverev. If they start dominating it will be tough for Rafa. It's very impressive he has hung on as long as he has given all his injuries. I wonder if there is any significance to his Uncle Toni stepping down from coaching him?
If Nadal gets to 19 (assuming that ties Federer), it will be very interesting to see how people view the comparison between Nadal and Federer.North Dakota
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View PostI'm not sure on Uncle Toni, but Shapovalov and Zverev have a long way to go on the clay to challenge Nadal. Barring injury (which as we've both noted, is a big concern for Nadal), I would imagine that Nadal wins at least 1-2 more French Opens.
If Nadal gets to 19 (assuming that ties Federer), it will be very interesting to see how people view the comparison between Nadal and Federer.
I've got a couple questions on Uncle Toni stepping down. Is it a sign he doesn't think Rafa has much left and what is the effect on Rafa? It will be interesting to see what happen without him.
I don't think there is any question Rafa is the greatest clay court player ever. Fed has him by quite a distance overall though. Nadal would need to win four or five more outside Paris for it to be any sort of argument.Originally posted by BobbyBrady
Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View PostI'm not sure on Uncle Toni, but Shapovalov and Zverev have a long way to go on the clay to challenge Nadal. Barring injury (which as we've both noted, is a big concern for Nadal), I would imagine that Nadal wins at least 1-2 more French Opens.
If Nadal gets to 19 (assuming that ties Federer), it will be very interesting to see how people view the comparison between Nadal and Federer.A bad cause requires many words.
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostWell Zverev won a Masters 1000 event on clay this year, so he must be somewhat decent on it.
Originally posted by Drew S.I don't think there is any question Rafa is the greatest clay court player ever. Fed has him by quite a distance overall though. Nadal would need to win four or five more outside Paris for it to be any sort of argument.North Dakota
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Originally posted by SonofSouthie View PostA comparison I found kinda surprising was Nadal leads head-to-head matchups 23-14.North Dakota
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View PostI'm not so sure about that. Rafa has a 6-3 heads up record against Federer in finals (including wins on each surface). Nadal is 9-3 against Roger in Grand Slams, and leads the overall series 23-14. If Rafa gets another Australia Open, he would have won the Grand Slam twice. Rafa has a better winning percentage in Grand Slams than Federer as well. It's really an interesting comparison, and I don't think there is really a wrong answer either way.
Rafa at his most roided out maybe was the most dominant player, but in terms of the best career, it's Federer by a long shot.Originally posted by dicaslover
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Originally posted by MaizeRage View PostI'm not a huge fan of the head-to-head comparison for a couple reasons. First, there's a fairly significant five-year age gap. Nadal was playing Federer at Rafa's peak more than Fed was playing Nadal at Roger's peak. Second, there are a lot of years in there where Federer was making quarters/semis in majors and Nadal didn't even play in the tournament, which has to count for something(or a lot, in my opinion). Especially if some day we get further confirmation on the persistent rumors that some of those "injuries" were really double-secret probations.
Rafa at his most roided out maybe was the most dominant player, but in terms of the best career, it's Federer by a long shot.
Are there any sort of legitimate rumors out there? I've always suspected it personally, but had never read much from anyone else. They're likely all doing something.
The most amazing part about Fed is his consistency. At one point he made like 30 straight semis. To have that level of consistency is crazy.Originally posted by BobbyBrady
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostAnother thing to point out is that Djoker actually leads Nadal 26-24.
As for the age difference, that definitely is key. Roger was winning a bunch of slams in his prime without having to face generational greats in their primes. Roger won 10 of his 19 slams before Rafa or Djoker turned 21.North Dakota
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View PostFWIW, Djoker is 3-4 against Nadal in Grand Slam finals...he's 3-1 against Federer. Djoker also leads the overall matchup with Federer 23-22 (and 9-6 in Grand Slams).
As for the age difference, that definitely is key. Roger was winning a bunch of slams in his prime without having to face generational greats in their primes. Roger won 10 of his 19 slams before Rafa or Djoker turned 21.Originally posted by BobbyBrady
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostI think you and many others underrate Safin, Hewitt, and Roddick. You can only have so many generational greats at one time too.North Dakota
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Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View PostSloane Stephens won easily today.Originally posted by BobbyBrady
Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year
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Originally posted by Slap Shot View PostSampras had stiffer competition imho.Originally posted by BobbyBrady
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