Sweet Valentine! The saga of the 2012 Boston Red Sox

[Priceless]

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This is a really bad day for Boston sports fans. Someone want to check and make sure Tom Brady is still alive and KG hasn't hurt himself on a trampoline?

[joecct]

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This is a really bad day for Boston sports fans. Someone want to check and make sure Tom Brady is still alive and KG hasn't hurt himself on a trampoline?

TB may be breathing, but since the Brazilian Bombshell got her hooks into him, he's a big oh-fer in SB's.

[mookie1995]

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The Boston Red Sox acquired outfielder Marlon Byrd and cash considerations from the Chicago Cubs in exchange for right-handed pitcher Michael Bowden and a player to be named later.


hmmmmm

[amherstblackbear]

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Looks like the front office is getting an early start on rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

[Priceless]

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I'm done with this team until things change. The players don't care - not one of them looked Bobby V in the eye as they filed past yesterday. The manager is out of touch - he said he left a reliever in to face a guy because the guy hadn't got a hit all year...the guy was 3-for-6 the night before AGAINST BOSTON! The front office is a neutered puppy - and every rival GM knows it. The ownership takes us for granted. As long as the precious string of *cough* sellouts *cough* continues, bricks are being sold and they play Sweet Caroline the owners don't care about the product on the field.

If I was John Henry...

Dump Larry Lucchino. Trade Beckett and Youkilis because they are clubhouse cancers. Either tell Ben Cherington the Red Sox are his baby, or get a GM you trust to do the job. That means when you tell him to hire a manager and he finds a manager he wants to hire, you don't take his balls and stuff them in a jar. You hire the freaking manager.

Or just sell the team, move to Liverpool and focus on the Reds. Or better yet, sell them too and go focus on NASCAR.

At least the NHL playoffs will keep me occupied until June.

Oh yeah, buy a brick.

[mookie1995]

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Oh yeah, buy a brick.

buy a limited addition bat

[joecct]

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buy a limited addition bat

The bullpen is getting multiplied. Thank heaven for the rainout. I think Francona and Valentine are both thankful.

[SteveF]

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The Boston Red Sox acquired outfielder Marlon Byrd and cash considerations from the Chicago Cubs in exchange for right-handed pitcher Michael Bowden and a player to be named later.


hmmmmm

11-30 in last 41 games... despite being 3rd in runs per game during that time (and 30th in ERA). Bowden is pretty terrible (though not any worse than melancon) but is trading pitching for hitting really the answer here?

[Priceless]

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11-30 in last 41 games... despite being 3rd in runs per game during that time (and 30th in ERA). Bowden is pretty terrible (though not any worse than melancon) but is trading pitching for hitting really the answer here?

Bowden was out of options and was DFA anyway. Odds are that someone would have picked him up for nothing on the waiver wire. So at least the Red Sox got something...

Best part of the rainout is that the Red Sox can't lose! I hear the staff is still going to play Sweet Caroline at about 11:30 anyway.

[mookie1995]

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11-30 in last 41 games... despite being 3rd in runs per game during that time (and 30th in ERA). Bowden is pretty terrible (though not any worse than melancon) but is trading pitching for hitting really the answer here?

byrd is what so far this year?? 3 for 40?

[SteveF]

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Bowden was out of options and was DFA anyway. Odds are that someone would have picked him up for nothing on the waiver wire. So at least the Red Sox got something...

Best part of the rainout is that the Red Sox can't lose! I hear the staff is still going to play Sweet Caroline at about 11:30 anyway.

well yeah, i think all of cherington's moves have been pretty good value so far. they got rid of people that were no longer part of their plans and received pretty good major league pieces for them. but i still question the move to waste his options in the first place. also that they could have tried to grab another arm - even if it wouldnt help them right away. serious lack of pitching depth in their system.

though weiland could be a guy they gave up too soon on.

[Priceless]

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Marlon Byrd says he's eager to play in the post season for the first time in his career...so I guess he's already demanding a trade...

[state of hockey]

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Sounds like this next series is between two teams with no pitching. Should be fun.

[Rover]

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If I was John Henry...

Dump Larry Lucchino. Trade Beckett and Youkilis because they are clubhouse cancers. Either tell Ben Cherington the Red Sox are his baby, or get a GM you trust to do the job. That means when you tell him to hire a manager and he finds a manager he wants to hire, you don't take his balls and stuff them in a jar. You hire the freaking manager.

Disagree big time with the Lucchino comment. I agree mostly with the rest of it. This team has a culture of whining and aside from Pedroia doesn't seem to care if they lose. That's one reason I was sorry to see Papelbon go. The guy cared. Ownership needs to make a statement that Valentine is running the team and can discipline players as he sees fit. I too cringed when he retracted his correct comments calling out Youk. Either Youkilis is going to stop missing games for hangnails and paper cuts or he should be shipped off. If a guy can play QB with a broken rib in a much more violent game than baseball, then this idiot can get out there and give the team 130 games a year. I could also live with dealing Beckett. What I don't know is if that would change Lester or Bucholtz behavior any. Were I Valentine I would have benched Pedroia for a game believe it or not for contradicting him to the press. Shut up and play ball already.

Cherrington is on a short leash. I don't like the team he put together. Too thin at starting pitcher and in the bullpen. If money was a concern, okay you let Papelbon walk. Its not for the Sox so sign him. That's cascaded to the rest of the team. The set up man is needed in the rotation (really, who takes Bard's place every 5th game?), the long relief man is the closer, and a bunch of journeymen are manning the rest of the spots. That's on the GM, not the manager. They didn't address any of the critical issues in the offseason (RF, C, SS, back end of the rotation, outfield depth) and created one (Closer).

[bostonewe]

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I'm done with this team until things change.

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I started the season this way and, aside from a few small moments of conversation when something else awful happens, I'm continuing this attitude until further notice.