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  • Re: 2012 Elections - Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death....

    He's a little early...

    Former Governor Mitt Romney is already offering top donors access to a special "Presidential Inaugural retreat," planned on the assumption that he will be elected president this November.

    The offer, in a fundraising email circulated by a top Georgia supporter to fellow Republicans and obtained by BuzzFeed, is one of several goodies offered to those who contribute more than $50,000 to the joint fundraising committee known as "Romney Victory."

    Those donors will be named "Founding Members" of Romney Victory and invited to a California retreat with Romney and offered "yet to be determined access at the Republican National Convention in Tampa in August."

    They will also "have preferred status at the first Presidential Inaugural retreat," the email says.
    You also have to donate $10,000 just for a picture with him.

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    • Re: 2012 Elections - Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death....

      CNN has Obama with a 9-point lead over Flipfloppy McNicehair.
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        Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
        CNN has Obama with a 9-point lead over Flipfloppy McNicehair.
        Fox has Romney ahead. I've never seen Brit Hume happier than he was on Sunday to report that news.
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          Originally posted by Priceless View Post
          He's a little early...

          You also have to donate $10,000 just for a picture with him.
          Which is so different than the big dollar dinners and all Obama does.
          Originally posted by Priceless
          Good to see you're so reasonable.
          Originally posted by ScoobyDoo
          Very well, said.
          Originally posted by Rover
          A fair assessment Bob.

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            Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
            Which is so different than the big dollar dinners and all Obama does.
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              are you saying it would be smarter to say, "hey, if i happen to win... you guys can come stay. you know, maybe".

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                Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
                CNN has Obama with a 9-point lead over Flipfloppy McNicehair.
                Ahem.
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                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  Mitt's the likely winner. Too many intangibles working against Obama. The stupidity of the electorate (elected GW twice) being the main one.
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                    Originally posted by Bob Gray View Post
                    Which is so different than the big dollar dinners and all Obama does.
                    I didn't take it that way. I took it more as a doh! moment by who ever is doing PR. We all know it happens. Usually it is not so out in the open. TY intertubes.

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                      I like how decidedly pro GOP outfits such as Fox or Rasmussen are still having trouble bucking up Romney's #'s. Its like when a candidate releases their own poll showing them tied with their rival. The Fox poll for example has the same electorate that showed up in 2010. While I freely admit if its the same voters for the mid terms as the general election that's good for The Mittster I kinda doubt that's how it plays out.
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                        Originally posted by Rover View Post
                        I like how decidedly pro GOP outfits such as Fox or Rasmussen are still having trouble bucking up Romney's #'s. Its like when a candidate releases their own poll showing them tied with their rival. The Fox poll for example has the same electorate that showed up in 2010. While I freely admit if its the same voters for the mid terms as the general election that's good for The Mittster I kinda doubt that's how it plays out.
                        Let's make a thought experiment. A population is divided evenly between two parties. Nobody ever switches their affiliation: once an X always an X. X's only mate with other X's. The offspring of X's are only X's. Finally, assume there are no significant fertility/replacement effects between different groups of X's, so each subsequent voter pool is again evenly split.

                        In our experiment, elections are won and lost by who comes to the polls. Campaigns aren't run to change people's minds, they are about mustering troops (or if possible driving down the other side's participation). The question for forecasting is no longer a matter of determining voter preference (which is fixed), but of predicting who will actually vote.

                        This election seems like a fairly close approximation to the experiment. We had 2008 and 2010 elections where one side was good at getting the vote out while the other was not. 2012 looks to be somewhere in the middle. So the question is: does anybody have a good predictor of who will get their people to the polls?

                        Gallup has an Enthusiasm poll broken down by affiliation. The numbers were very good for the Republicans when that article was written (Q3 2011) but I can't seem to find the updated numbers (rant: they should just link to the raw data for those of us who don't need to be hand-held by the news story, and that way it would also preserve currency end rant).

                        They also have a Certainty to Vote poll. It would be nice though if there was some proof those metrics actually meant anything.
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                          Stewart hit a home run last night on "mommy gate".

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                          • Re: 2012 Elections - Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death....

                            TDS knocked it out of the park.

                            On another note...why would a woman ever want to live in Wisconsin? That state seriously hates women. (but they love deer!) I am sure WeWantMore will find a way to defend all the wonderful anti-women legislation that has been introduced/sign as of late though
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                              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                              TDS knocked it out of the park.

                              On another note...why would a woman ever want to live in Wisconsin? That state seriously hates women. (but they love deer!) I am sure WeWantMore will find a way to defend all the wonderful anti-women legislation that has been introduced/sign as of late though
                              Hey, some of us are rather fond of women. You're right though, the republican majority apparently hates them quite a bit. And it's only gonna get worse.
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                                Was TDS right? Did Walker sign the bill that basically made it ok for employers to pay women less? (repealing the equal pay law) If so...what the hell can possibly be the justification for that? Better yet, how long until it is found Un-Constitutional even by the SCOTUS that includes Anthony Scalia?

                                I mean wow...
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