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    The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

    Recently, remains of a sizable Egyptian army was found near the Red Sea.

    http://joeforamerica.com/2015/01/arc...media-ignores/

    In addition, a large ark was found on Mount Ararat a while back.

    http://joeforamerica.com/2013/12/noa...eping-us-dark/
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    Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

    Allegorical in the creation story.

    History written by the victors in the OT. Psalms is pretty cool. Maccabees is somewhat controversial.

    True in the NT - Rome was there to collaborate facts. But the resurrection is faith. Without it, Christianity loses its special status.
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      Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

      If you believe in the bible then good for you. What is the point of this thread other then to create an opportunity for a flamefest?

      Cause we all know religion isn't a divisive topic.
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        Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        Recently, remains of a sizable Egyptian army was found near the Red Sea.

        http://joeforamerica.com/2015/01/arc...media-ignores/

        In addition, a large ark was found on Mount Ararat a while back.

        http://joeforamerica.com/2013/12/noa...eping-us-dark/
        Could it be that no one cares because both are fake? No surprise the dumbasses over at joeforamerica got a huge hard on over the thought of some anti-xtian conspiracy. Surely their source wouldn't be a satirical website? Would it? (If you can get past all the click bait advertising bull****) http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer/

        WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle. - See more at: http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disc....kvlXyxQ2.dpuf
        If you believe in the bible then good for you. What is the point of this thread other then to create an opportunity for a flamefest?

        Cause we all know religion isn't a divisive topic.
        Political threads aren't fun anymore?
        Last edited by Foxton; 01-07-2015, 08:34 AM.

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          Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

          Somewhere in between sounds interesting in that it is an alternative to being real or fiction. Not sure what else there is, but, hey, this is USCHO.
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            Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

            Maybe the good book
            Came from the Divine
            Or maybe it was written
            Just to keep us in line
            The mistakes of the sages
            Make the rules for the fools

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            That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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              Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

              Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
              If you believe in the bible then good for you. What is the point of this thread other then to create an opportunity for a flamefest?

              Cause we all know religion isn't a divisive topic.
              Maybe we can keep it together. At least for a while.

              The OT is the Hebrews' origin mythology like you'd find with any culture. In fact, most of the stories are cribbed off earlier cultures' mythology, because there is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9).

              The NT is the in-house story of the Christian founders as written by later Christians. At its most real it's like the Congressional Record, where later authors reserved the right to "revise and extend their remarks." In general it's like any organization's sanitized corporate handbook, except instead of fudging the numbers they fudge miracles.

              Obviously, all the supernatural stuff is either the pre-scientific mind of the time reaching for a "divine" explanation for natural phenomenon (most of it), or just straight-up cynical edits and invention to give the faith some pizzazz (Virgin Birth, Resurrection, Ascension).

              And at the end of the day it's a literary masterpiece so it's a tremendous addition to human culture. Just don't take it literally.
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                Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                Great myths have a deeper truth that transcends the literal. It is "real truth" even if not historically accurate.
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                  Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                  Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                  Great myths have a deeper truth that transcends the literal. It is "real truth" even if not historically accurate.
                  So, like the Koran. Or The Princess Bride.
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                    Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                    Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                    Great myths have a deeper truth that transcends the literal. It is "real truth" even if not historically accurate.
                    That is some fine doublespeak. Well done.

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                      Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      So, like the Koran. Or The Princess Bride.
                      Inconceivable.

                      This thread is everything I thought it would be. Well done, USCHO.

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                        Fiction.
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                          Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          So, like the Koran. Or The Princess Bride.
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                            Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                            Originally posted by Jon View Post
                            Inconceivable.

                            This thread is everything I thought it would be. Well done, USCHO.
                            Not quite yet. Nobody's been banhammered.
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                              Re: The Bible: Real, Fiction, or somewhere in between?

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              So, like the Koran. Or The Princess Bride.
                              or Gilgamesh. or the Bhagavad Gita. Or the Upanishads. Or Confucius. Or the Tao te Ching. or the Eddas.
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