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  • Shannon Miller out at UMD?

    Surely I can't be the first one to break this news? Twitter is reporting tonight that Miller's contract (and those of her assistants) will not be renewed. @ZachSchneider, sports director at Duluth's NBC/ABC affiliate is tweeting this tonight. Wow....

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    Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

    Originally posted by L268 View Post
    Surely I can't be the first one to break this news? Twitter is reporting tonight that Miller's contract (and those of her assistants) will not be renewed. @ZachSchneider, sports director at Duluth's NBC/ABC affiliate is tweeting this tonight. Wow....
    I was thinking it must have to do with the salaries...and here it is.

    Merry Christmas and junk. Feel badly for Kingsbury just having arrived on the scene.

    http://bulldoghockeyblog.areavoices....season-at-umd/
    Last edited by Blackbeard; 12-15-2014, 11:11 PM.

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      Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

      Smells a little fishy. Men's cosch Sandelin makes 250K with his assistants making 225K. If money is the issue there are many other ways in the department to make budget cuts. Terrible timing really with the team having won 12 of its last 13. Students are in the middle of Finals Week. This isn't an easy situation for them either and this distraction is completely unwarranted

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        Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

        If they're squeezed for cash maybe the scholarship pot takes a hit, too?

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          Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

          I don’t think it was so much the salary but the unlimited supply of sequin shirts and leisure suites that was killing them
          Seriously, the current salary can only be justified if you were still in the championship picture, disappearing from the big three rotation and not sniffing the playoffs for several years may have something to do with it.

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            Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

            Originally posted by Blackbeard View Post
            If they're squeezed for cash maybe the scholarship pot takes a hit, too?
            Surprised they didn't opt to drop a sport or two, which is what usually happens when an institution is cash strapped. Cutting out the coach who turned the program into a revenue sport doesn't seem too bright, nor does waiting until the end of the season to find a replacement. Recruiting is going to take a big hit.

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              Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

              UMD took a bit of an enrollment hit the last few years that took them somewhat by surprise and has given them budget challenges.

              Wouldn't be surprising if Shannon Miller is a bit high maintenance also, which could make them less inclined to try to work it out now that she isn't winning so much.

              The housecleaning that took place on the roster at the end end of last year really gave me the impression that she was scrambling to make a last ditch effort to turn things around and re-establish the program's winning ways. If so, it seems to be working, but I don't know that all athletic departments and schools want that kind housecleaning to be a part of their women's hockey program.

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                Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                Originally posted by Hux View Post
                Surprised they didn't opt to drop a sport or two, which is what usually happens when an institution is cash strapped. Cutting out the coach who turned the program into a revenue sport doesn't seem too bright, nor does waiting until the end of the season to find a replacement. Recruiting is going to take a big hit.
                Yeah.

                Maybe waiting until the end of the season to start the search for an entire coaching staff is a show of respect for what she's done for the program. Even so, it sure increases the difficulty of the task. I wonder if Schuler and Kingsbury were approached with respect to pay cuts? Doesn't seem to make sense that you wouldn't have those discussions and plumb those depths before canning everyone if money was the only issue. There might have been a chance that all three would have agreed, seeing as the following article indicates that Miller was open to it, unless the AD just thought that the pay cuts would have to be so substantial that it would amount to an insult...but even so, I think it's a lot better to let your employees tell you that so that there is no guessing going on in a serious situation like this.

                Just posted this on the UMD thread...
                There's a little more in this article (the money issue wasn't a surprise to Miller)...including Team Captain Hickel's letting AD Berlo know what she thinks in a two word tweet...

                http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/spo...xtended-beyond

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                  Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

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                  Last edited by ZedLeppelin; 12-16-2014, 08:42 AM. Reason: USCHO won't delete it, so I erased it...bam.

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                    Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                    "Budget cuts" - right. Miller has said that in summer meetings, she told UMD she was willing to take a pay cut. I second the mention of Sandelin's salary on the men's side, if the budget is really the issue.

                    What happens to the players who have officially committed to UMD? Are they stuck now with whatever Dollar Store staff replaces Miller's?

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                      Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                      Originally posted by ZedLeppelin View Post
                      What happens to the players who have officially committed to UMD? Are they stuck now with whatever basement dweller staff replaces Miller's?
                      No I'm pretty sure they are able to re-open their recruiting due to the coaching change, and even get out of an NLI if they wanted.
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                        Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                        Originally posted by ZedLeppelin View Post
                        What happens to the players who have officially committed to UMD? Are they stuck now with whatever basement dweller staff replaces Miller's?
                        Of course, that's what happens because the recruits officially committed to the program with no conditions attached as to who the coach(es) would be even though the coach(es) might have been a major reason why the recruits committed.

                        For an even worse circumstance just look what happened at WSU a few years ago.

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                          Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                          Originally posted by Blackbeard View Post
                          Of course, that's what happens because the recruits officially committed to the program with no conditions attached as to who the coach(es) would be even though the coach(es) might have been a major reason why the recruits committed.

                          For an even worse circumstance just look what happened at WSU a few years ago.
                          very often in cases like this schools will let recruits out of their NLI's without penalty if they ask.

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                            Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                            Originally posted by TonyTheTiger20 View Post
                            No I'm pretty sure they are able to re-open their recruiting due to the coaching change, and even get out of an NLI if they wanted.
                            That's good news for those players. The underclassmen who went to UMD for the program under Miller can't be too happy right about now. Miller's recruiting reach is going to be missed there, too.

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                              Re: Shannon Miller out at UMD?

                              Originally posted by ZedLeppelin View Post
                              That's good news for those players. The underclassmen who went to UMD for the program under Miller can't be too happy right about now. Miller's recruiting reach is going to be missed there, too.
                              I think those players would be allowed to transfer without penalty as well.
                              Grant Salzano, Boston College '10
                              Writer Emeritus, BC Interruption
                              Twitter: @Salzano14


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