2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

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Well the rumored AG pick it's no longer a rumor. Congrats and good luck
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...de?tid=HP_lede

[geezer]

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I like Obama's attitude. I wish he would go ahead and propose ambitious tax and spend programs to address homelessness, mental health outreach, food stamps. I don't have high hopes that he'll put them forward, or that they'd get anywhere if he did, but I wish.

[Kepler]

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Since it's a given that nothing will happen for the next two years, the Democrats should concentrate on positive themes of believing that the country can still accomplish things. It will make a nice contrast to the sh1tstorm of pettiness, stupidity and cruelty that will come from the party of impeachment, creationism, and the Ryan budget.

They also better start working on more effective GOTV, beginning with making sure everybody has an ID and is registered. The voter suppression that will happen next time is going to make this year look like a model of democratic practice. No idea why they don't link arms and propose a national holiday for Election Day, just to force the GOP out in the open in opposing it. What on earth argument could they possibly come up with against it? Other than "but if people vote we'll lose!"?

[joecct]

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I like Obama's attitude. I wish he would go ahead and propose ambitious tax and spend programs to address homelessness, mental health outreach, food stamps. I don't have high hopes that he'll put them forward, or that they'd get anywhere if he did, but I wish.

He can also try to make the seas retreat. There is only so much money in the budget.

What ARE this government's priorities?

[dxmnkd316]

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Subscribed because the more important question is does your duck float?

[joecct]

Subscribed because the more important question is does your duck float?

Witch duck?

[dxmnkd316]

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Yes

[Rover]

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Obama's last two years will most likely be fairly straight forward. Forget about tax reform and stuff like that. There's too many special interests with their hands in the pie for a bipartisan solution. There will be a lot of bluster on immigration reform, but as nothing gets done yet again the O will confer legal status via executive order on millions, thus giving right wing talk radio something to be enraged about post-election.

ISIS/ISIL/Whateverthefuktheycallthemselvesnow will also continue to get pounded into oblivion for the next year or so which is a pretty uncontroversial strategy.

Beyond that, profusely apologizing to Howard Dean and begging him to return to head the DNC seems like a real good idea for Obama to do, and if his price is sending
Rahm Emmanual to Gitmo its tough but fair. Make the deal.

[Handyman]

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Beyond that, profusely apologizing to Howard Dean and begging him to return to head the DNC seems like a real good idea for Obama to do, and if his price is sending
Rahm Emmanual to Gitmo its tough but fair. Make the deal.

I dont often agree with you, but I think this is essential. Dead as head of the party is needed and fast.

[Kepler]

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Beyond that, profusely apologizing to Howard Dean and begging him to return to head the DNC seems like a real good idea for Obama to do, and if his price is sending
Rahm Emmanual to Gitmo its tough but fair. Make the deal.

How is that tough?

The irony is that Obama was much less crony-driven than Clinton, but the Obama people that did crack the administration were much less effective. This is probably because at his heart Obama is a reformer who used politics as a method for gaining power while Clinton was a politician who used reform as a method for gaining power. We'll see where Hillary is.

[Rover]

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How is that tough?

The irony is that Obama was much less crony-driven than Clinton, but the Obama people that did crack the administration were much less effective. This is probably because at his heart Obama is a reformer who used politics as a method for gaining power while Clinton was a politician who used reform as a method for gaining power. We'll see where Hillary is.

Beyond policies and all that, IMHO Hillary will be a lot less caught up in the idea that her mere presence is going to "change the culture of Washington". Surely she knows by now and figured out one person can't change the partisanship between the two parties. Obama seems to have thought that if he stayed out of politics and above the fray, he'd get some sort of benefit from that instead of what did happen which is your opponents will fill in the blanks if you don't take the time to defend yourself, your party, and your policies.

This experience makes her better not just for the Dems, but for the Indies and the Goopers (the sane ones) as well. Can you imagine a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul Presidency, two people who see themselves in almost a religious as opposed to political light (sorta like George W Bush did)? Yikes.

[SJHovey]

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Since it's a given that nothing will happen for the next two years, the Democrats should concentrate on positive themes of believing that the country can still accomplish things. It will make a nice contrast to the sh1tstorm of pettiness, stupidity and cruelty that will come from the party of impeachment, creationism, and the Ryan budget.

They also better start working on more effective GOTV, beginning with making sure everybody has an ID and is registered. The voter suppression that will happen next time is going to make this year look like a model of democratic practice. No idea why they don't link arms and propose a national holiday for Election Day, just to force the GOP out in the open in opposing it. What on earth argument could they possibly come up with against it? Other than "but if people vote we'll lose!"?

Just out of curiosity, why is it assumed turning Election Day into a national holiday benefits Democratic candidates and hurts Republican candidates? Some sort of strange fantasy that the Republican "masters" will now be forced to release the "Democratic" slaves from their chains of bondage to let them vote?

I personally think turning election day into a holiday would have the effect of reducing turnout. A lot of people with no excuse to get out of bed or leave the house. Not sure who that is going to help or hurt.

In any event, the whole "election day" is going by the wayside. There will only be more and more early voting, electronic voting from your home or work, etc..., as we go forward. Election day will just turn into the day in which we count the votes previously cast.

[unofan]

Just out of curiosity, why is it assumed turning Election Day into a national holiday benefits Democratic candidates and hurts Republican candidates?

For the same reason that voting restrictions help the GOP candidates. Higher turnout is almost always better for the dems. For whatever reason, dem voters tend to be more marginal voters. Which is why they get steamrolled most midterms but reverse that trend in presidential elections.

It's also the reason Democratic candidates tend to do 4-5 points better in registered voter polls than likely voter polls.

[Kepler]

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Perhaps this is good.