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uwbadgers14
07-12-2009, 12:36 PM
Sense many of the players being considered for team USA have college hockey ties, I figured an official olympic thread would be in order.

First, Is the USA camp in august going to be available to the public to attend, anyone know? Its only a 2 1/2 hour drive from madison and I'd like to check it out if possible.

Also I have come up with a list of Dark horses that could make the team if they have a successful start to the season that were not invited to the camp. A couple of these i can't believe were not considered for the camp. Those are in caps. There are also a couple vets that i thinks till have a chance to make the team. With the length of the Canada camp roster i'm not sure why USA didn't go with a few more people but to also keep canada and the others guessing a little bit. I think out of the players attending the camp you can pick out the meet of the roster right away.

Forwards
- Colin Wilson - Dominate in WJC and held his own at the Worlds this spring.
- Brian Gionta - Would likely fit with any line
- PETER MUELLER?
- Keith Tkachuk - I think would be the best captian for the team.
- DREW STAFFORD
- Chad Larose - Is an absolute pest every single shift, strong in playoffs
- R. J. UMBERGER?

D-Men
- Jamie McBain - Rookie but will likely step into carolina and contribute right away. WJC experience.
- Alex Goligoski - Couldn't figure out why he was scratched in the playoffs, at times he was Pittsburghs best d-man.
- Zach bogosian -Held his own well at the worlds this year, if he has a good start to the season, could get some consideration.
- KIETH BALLARD - one word SOLID!

Goalies
- Rick DiPietro (injury) - USA will have solid goaltending knowmatter if its Thomas, Miller or DiPietro
- Ty Conklin - Some guy on TSN has conklin as the backup for vancouver, lack of playing time puts him behind the 8 ball.

jnacc
07-12-2009, 09:45 PM
I think Gionta will flourish in Montreal after being teamed up with his old linemate Gomez and will make the team. I was very surprised not to see Ballard on the invite list.

Zach Bogosian is the future of the U.S. D core but he is just to young right now but he may be given a strong look over if he starts the year off like he finished last year. McBain has no chance and Gologoski just doesn't have the talent and experience to play at the level needed for this tournament.

Now is it just me or do you also get the sense that this tournament is going to be a two horse race between Canada and Russia with Sweden being the dark horse?

Chris Clark Fan Club
07-12-2009, 10:40 PM
I hope Minnesota State's David Backes gets a look. I know he was invited to the camp.

Puck Swami
07-12-2009, 11:21 PM
Now is it just me or do you also get the sense that this tournament is going to be a two horse race between Canada and Russia with Sweden being the dark horse?

I think the USA will be right there in the medal hunt. All you need in the Olympic tournament is a hot goalie, and you have a medal shot. Team USA will have the reigning 2009 Vezina trophy winner in Tim Thomas in net, and when he's on his game, he's money. The US will have enough scorers to stay in games, as long as Thomas does his part.

uwbadgers14
07-13-2009, 11:31 AM
I think Gionta will flourish in Montreal after being teamed up with his old linemate Gomez and will make the team. I was very surprised not to see Ballard on the invite list.

Zach Bogosian is the future of the U.S. D core but he is just to young right now but he may be given a strong look over if he starts the year off like he finished last year. McBain has no chance and Gologoski just doesn't have the talent and experience to play at the level needed for this tournament.

Now is it just me or do you also get the sense that this tournament is going to be a two horse race between Canada and Russia with Sweden being the dark horse?

I agree, McBain and goligoski may not have much of a shot but you look at the D-men the USA invited and the D -Core of Canada and we are more then someone behind in the scoring potential. We can't even compare to Canada on the blue line. If McBain or Goligoski show offensive upside before the holidays you never know. Both have WJC experience and move the puck well. McBain is untested at the NHL level but i think he can jump right in in carolina.

this is what I'd like to see, besides a new coach, 23 person roster.

D-MEN: 7
Gilbert
Hainsley
Rafalski
Scuderi
Suter
Whitney
Ballard

FORWARDS:14
Backas
Booth
Brown
Drury
gomez
Kane
Kesler
Kessel
Langerbrunner
Malone
Parise
Ryan
Gionta
Pavelski/Modano (can't deside, I want Modano to get 1 more shot at gold but i think pavelski would be the better choice)

GOALIES: 2
Thomas
Miller

uwbadgers14
07-13-2009, 11:33 AM
I think the USA will be right there in the medal hunt. All you need in the Olympic tournament is a hot goalie, and you have a medal shot. Team USA will have the reigning 2009 Vezina trophy winner in Tim Thomas in net, and when he's on his game, he's money. The US will have enough scorers to stay in games, as long as Thomas does his part.

I agree, this youth movement may just work out. Ron Wilson as head coach i'm not so sure about, I'm glad to see Tortorella will be there at least though...

Puck Swami
07-13-2009, 01:43 PM
this is what I'd like to see, besides a new coach, 23 person roster.



I think you need Stastny!

And while Ron Wilson has won a World Cup (1996), I wouldn't mind seeing Dan Bylsma added to the USA coaching staff - He did just win a Stanely Cup after all....

vizoroo
07-13-2009, 01:56 PM
I think you need Stastny!

And while Ron Wilson has won a World Cup (1996), I wouldn't mind seeing Dan Bylsma added to the USA coaching staff - He did just win a Stanely Cup after all....

Assuming Stats is healthy, Couldn't agree more!

uwbadgers14
07-13-2009, 01:58 PM
I think you need Stastny!

And while Ron Wilson has won a World Cup (1996), I wouldn't mind seeing Dan Bylsma added to the USA coaching staff - He did just win a Stanely Cup after all....

he was the last man cut off from mine...

I didn't even think of Bylsma, that would have been an idea for Burke to think about but i'm sure he wanted his buddy Ron Wilson.

joecct
07-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Ron Wilson strikes me as an X's and O's guy, not the motivator you need when the going gets tough. Witness his NHL teams, when the going got tough, they got gone.

You need the motivator as the top guy with the assistant with the white board. The best guy for that, unfortunately, lies in a Minnesota cemetary. So, if not Wilson, who? Torts??

Puck Swami
07-13-2009, 03:15 PM
Ron Wilson strikes me as an X's and O's guy, not the motivator you need when the going gets tough. Witness his NHL teams, when the going got tough, they got gone.

You need the motivator as the top guy with the assistant with the white board. The best guy for that, unfortunately, lies in a Minnesota cemetary. So, if not Wilson, who? Torts??

How about 2009 Stanely Cup-Winning Coach Dan Bylsma?

uwbadgers14
07-13-2009, 06:04 PM
Ron Wilson strikes me as an X's and O's guy, not the motivator you need when the going gets tough. Witness his NHL teams, when the going got tough, they got gone.

You need the motivator as the top guy with the assistant with the white board. The best guy for that, unfortunately, lies in a Minnesota cemetary. So, if not Wilson, who? Torts??

Couldn't agree more... USA could have an advantage over canada in this olympics just because i feel canada is going to go with an all star type lineup, probebly will move some usual center over to wings to make room for them on the roster, If wilson plays his cards right and gets the right guys USA can compete with canada. Russia and Sweden are a different story however, Those teams always seem to gel together the best...

uwbadgers14
07-17-2009, 12:11 PM
Which team has a better chance of winning gold this year, the USA World Junior U20 team or the Olympic team??? I think both are probebly running around 15% haha

joecct
07-17-2009, 08:08 PM
How about 2009 Stanely Cup-Winning Coach Dan Bylsma?If he can bring the guy who lives in Mario's basement, sure! In reality, a good choice. Anyone but Wilson.

biggd
07-17-2009, 09:21 PM
Sense many of the players being considered for team USA have college hockey ties, I figured an official olympic thread would be in order.

First, Is the USA camp in august going to be available to the public to attend, anyone know? Its only a 2 1/2 hour drive from madison and I'd like to check it out if possible.

Also I have come up with a list of Dark horses that could make the team if they have a successful start to the season that were not invited to the camp. A couple of these i can't believe were not considered for the camp. Those are in caps. There are also a couple vets that i thinks till have a chance to make the team. With the length of the Canada camp roster i'm not sure why USA didn't go with a few more people but to also keep canada and the others guessing a little bit. I think out of the players attending the camp you can pick out the meet of the roster right away.

Forwards
- Colin Wilson - Dominate in WJC and held his own at the Worlds this spring.
- Brian Gionta - Would likely fit with any line
- PETER MUELLER?
- Keith Tkachuk - I think would be the best captian for the team.
- DREW STAFFORD
- Chad Larose - Is an absolute pest every single shift, strong in playoffs
- R. J. UMBERGER?

D-Men
- Jamie McBain - Rookie but will likely step into carolina and contribute right away. WJC experience.
- Alex Goligoski - Couldn't figure out why he was scratched in the playoffs, at times he was Pittsburghs best d-man.
- Zach bogosian -Held his own well at the worlds this year, if he has a good start to the season, could get some consideration.
- KIETH BALLARD - one word SOLID!

Goalies
- Rick DiPietro (injury) - USA will have solid goaltending knowmatter if its Thomas, Miller or DiPietro
- Ty Conklin - Some guy on TSN has conklin as the backup for vancouver, lack of playing time puts him behind the 8 ball.Although they are very good prospects I can't see McBain or Gologoski making the team over Jack Johnson and Erick Johnson. I doubt McBain will even make the Canes this season and Gologoski wasn't even close to being Pittsburgs best d-man. Those two are very long odds.

uwbadgers14
07-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Although they are very good prospects I can't see McBain or Gologoski making the team over Jack Johnson and Erick Johnson. I doubt McBain will even make the Canes this season and Gologoski wasn't even close to being Pittsburgs best d-man. Those two are very long odds.

A couple things jumped out at me, First i don't have Erick or Jack Johnson making the team, i'm not big on either of them to be honest. Erick is coming off a terrible knee injury so who knows how long before he is back on his game much less advances a level or 2 where he needs to be in february. Jack Johnson, I don't see LA play a lot but when i do it just doesn't stand out as a top D-man in the league right now, but i think he could be. 6-5-11.-18 and 46 PM in 41 Games doesn't really jump out at me...

As far as McBain and Goligoski, The reason I mentioned McBain is he has played in 2 WJC and I think he will make Carolina's roster out of camp and I have seen him play enough over the 3 years that he could possibly put up better numbers then some of the D-man already invited to the USA camp (Johnsons). I really don't think McBain would make the team even if he had a great start in the NHL but he could be worthy of an invite to the camp just to see how he stacks up.. When it comes to Goligoski, Him and Scuderi were great together when he played and i think a little flamilierity could go a ways... As far as home not being the best Pittsburgh defender i agree, but thats probebly because there best D-men aren't american. (Gonchar and Letang)

uwbadgers14
07-18-2009, 02:20 PM
Sometimes the NHLPA is annoying, if your so worried about your players getting hurt, why even have them play in the games in the 1st place. Stupid and pointless bickering on the NHLPA part. Either pull out of the games all together or shut up!!!

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/27283-NHLPA-recommends-players-skip-onice-activities-at-Olympic-orientation-camps.html

biggd
07-18-2009, 05:50 PM
A couple things jumped out at me, First i don't have Erick or Jack Johnson making the team, i'm not big on either of them to be honest. Erick is coming off a terrible knee injury so who knows how long before he is back on his game much less advances a level or 2 where he needs to be in february. Jack Johnson, I don't see LA play a lot but when i do it just doesn't stand out as a top D-man in the league right now, but i think he could be. 6-5-11.-18 and 46 PM in 41 Games doesn't really jump out at me...

As far as McBain and Goligoski, The reason I mentioned McBain is he has played in 2 WJC and I think he will make Carolina's roster out of camp and I have seen him play enough over the 3 years that he could possibly put up better numbers then some of the D-man already invited to the USA camp (Johnsons). I really don't think McBain would make the team even if he had a great start in the NHL but he could be worthy of an invite to the camp just to see how he stacks up.. When it comes to Goligoski, Him and Scuderi were great together when he played and i think a little flamilierity could go a ways... As far as home not being the best Pittsburgh defender i agree, but thats probebly because there best D-men aren't american. (Gonchar and Letang)Erick Johnson is back on the ice and better than ever. He will make the team, without a doubt. Jack Johnson is another player that has a good shot at making it. Both Johnson boys are far and away better players than both McBain and Goligoski. Don't go by just the numbers. McBains got a ways to go before you can mention him with those others. I would put Matt Gilroy ahead of both of them but he hasn't proven anything yet either.

Slap Shot
07-19-2009, 10:40 AM
Erik Johnson.

uwbadgers14
07-19-2009, 11:47 AM
Erick Johnson is back on the ice and better than ever. He will make the team, without a doubt. Jack Johnson is another player that has a good shot at making it. Both Johnson boys are far and away better players than both McBain and Goligoski. Don't go by just the numbers. McBains got a ways to go before you can mention him with those others. I would put Matt Gilroy ahead of both of them but he hasn't proven anything yet either.

You could be right on Erik Johnson, i haven't seen him play a lot in the NHL either and there is more then just numbers. McBain, Goligoski and Gilroy along with Bogosian are probebly the future blue line for team USA down the road, we will just have to wait an see. I forgot about Gilroy, he has unbelievable potential. We could be loaded on the Blueline in 2014 with Gilbert, Suter, Bogosian, Goligoski, McBain, Johnson, Gilroy, Johnson Exc.

What troubles me most about the D-man the USA has, then you look at canada, we don't match up as far as scoring goes. We are just completely over-matched. Maybe the USA will be more balanced with a mix of stay at home d-Man and puck moving offensive D-men and that could be a good thing.