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hockeyexpert101
08-12-2008, 01:11 PM
I would like to hear from players whom have already been through the college recruiting process to hear what they think is the best vehicle for exposure to colleges.

Certainly you see coaches at Chowder Cup, Rinksport, prep playoffs and Christmas Tournaments(Polar Bear and Prep) but the amount of time they actually see you play is very limited at these venues.

Ive also heard that alot of the coaches run summer camps where the exposure is more in depth. Players coachability, personality and work ethic can be viewed over a longer period of time.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated espeically by college players and/or coaches.

leafsfan
08-12-2008, 02:01 PM
I would like to hear from players whom have already been through the college recruiting process to hear what they think is the best vehicle for exposure to colleges.

Certainly you see coaches at Chowder Cup, Rinksport, prep playoffs and Christmas Tournaments(Polar Bear and Prep) but the amount of time they actually see you play is very limited at these venues.

Ive also heard that alot of the coaches run summer camps where the exposure is more in depth. Players coachability, personality and work ethic can be viewed over a longer period of time.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated espeically by college players and/or coaches.

From my years of scouting there are (3) tournaments that colleges focus on and there is a reason for this.

You have to remember that D1 programs are full steam ahead come Oct.1 so the head and assistant coaches are knee deep in preparing for the upcoming season and they can't attend alot of the Oct and Nov tournaments.

So that is why the Sept. tournaments are important and also at Christmas time.

The three major tournaments to attend (as far as exposure is concerned).

1) NAHA tournament (Vermont)

2) Stoney Creek

3) Mississauga (Xmas) or Polar Bears (Either is fine).


I hope this helps, good luck

WFR
08-12-2008, 03:50 PM
EXPOSURE:CAMPS

Best camp in East would have to be Rinksport, heavily attended by both D-1 and D-3 schools.

Brown, hnib and chowder cup have limited numbers of scouts.

Tournaments:

naha
polar bears
stoney creek
st jerome (thanksgiving)
USA Nationals
Prep school post season and also Prep school holiday tournaments in December.

straightstickshooter
08-12-2008, 04:49 PM
Others- Fire on Ice Rochester, NY 1st week in November and
Mississauga, ONT in December. -edited- sorry didn't see leaf's post about MISS

hockeyexpert101
08-12-2008, 05:09 PM
Thanks for the info on the tournaments but I was more interested in real experience either form those that have been recruited or are doing the recruiting. Are these tournaments preferd or do coaches prefer to see the player in a camp environment. I know a lot of specific colleges offer camps and there are also some exposure camps.

notfromaroundhere
08-12-2008, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the info on the tournaments but I was more interested in real experience either form those that have been recruited or are doing the recruiting. Are these tournaments preferd or do coaches prefer to see the player in a camp environment. I know a lot of specific colleges offer camps and there are also some exposure camps.

Last summer, I did notice that one particular player who was being recruited by a top 10 D1 did make it a point to attend a camp at this university where she was being recruited (and met with the coach) and shortly thereafter got listed on the Committed thread. Probably not a coincidence, as this is not one of the more commonly mentioned camps on this forum.

Probably not answering your question, but it is something to consider if you think there is an interest in your player.

OnMAA
08-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Thanks for the info on the tournaments but I was more interested in real experience either form those that have been recruited or are doing the recruiting. Are these tournaments preferd or do coaches prefer to see the player in a camp environment. I know a lot of specific colleges offer camps and there are also some exposure camps.

IMHO Scouts want to see players in different circumstances on various occasions to get a proper evaluation. They want to see them against various levels of competition. I have had scouts advise me to go to certain tournaments. Bottom line is that once you are on the radar, you need to communicate with them to let them know where you will be playing (team wise and tournament wise). If they are interested, they will make a point of seeing you play.

Other posters have already mentioned the various tournaments that in my experience attract many scouts like NAHA (both Summer and Fall), Chowder, Stoney, Aeros, Missy, Polar Bear, Festivals and U18 camps.

Sometimes you get more exposure in a smaller tournament, as there are less scouts, but also less teams. Union, Silver Seven and various Showcases are good examples of that. Assabet is another good event to attend.

hockeyfan1
08-12-2008, 07:14 PM
IMHO Scouts want to see players in different circumstances on various occasions to get a proper evaluation. They want to see them against various levels of competition. I have had scouts advise me to go to certain tournaments. Bottom line is that once you are on the radar, you need to communicate with them to let them know where you will be playing (team wise and tournament wise). If they are interested, they will make a point of seeing you play.

Other posters have already mentioned the various tournaments that in my experience attract many scouts like NAHA (both Summer and Fall), Chowder, Stoney, Aeros, Missy, Polar Bear, Festivals and U18 camps.

Sometimes you get more exposure in a smaller tournament, as there are less scouts, but also less teams. Union, Silver Seven and various Showcases are good examples of that. Assabet is another good event to attend.


I agree with this 100% I would also like to say having gone through the process recently with my D. If you are good enough the coaches will make the time to visit your games. However you need to invite them the player needs to e-mail call and keep in touch if they want to be seen. Nowadays teams play in a number of different areas of the US and Canada send them your season schedule early and they will see when they are near by where you are playing. I know a number of coaches came to see my D play just one game against one team because they were playing a nearby school.

goldp
08-13-2008, 12:52 AM
From my years of scouting there are (3) tournaments that colleges focus on and there is a reason for this.

You have to remember that D1 programs are full steam ahead come Oct.1 so the head and assistant coaches are knee deep in preparing for the upcoming season and they can't attend alot of the Oct and Nov tournaments.

So that is why the Sept. tournaments are important and also at Christmas time.

The three major tournaments to attend (as far as exposure is concerned).

1) NAHA tournament (Vermont)

2) Stoney Creek

3) Mississauga (Xmas) or Polar Bears (Either is fine).


I hope this helps, good luck


So 'colleges' apparently don't recruit Minnesota kids?

leafsfan
08-13-2008, 09:55 AM
Thanks for the info on the tournaments but I was more interested in real experience either form those that have been recruited or are doing the recruiting. Are these tournaments preferd or do coaches prefer to see the player in a camp environment. I know a lot of specific colleges offer camps and there are also some exposure camps.


I have always found that for a D1 coach to make a decision on a potential future recruit they like to watch them compete against top competition, not a camp environment.
Don't get me wrong camp's are fine, for what they are, but the competition is the key.

leafsfan
08-13-2008, 10:04 AM
So 'colleges' apparently don't recruit Minnesota kids?

Of course they do, that's why you see alot of the top Minnesota girls on various teams at the NAHA tourney. (Additional exposure)

wihobserver
08-13-2008, 10:12 AM
don't forget the mwehl showcases & playoffs, the thoroughbreds tournament, the holiday cup and other holiday tournaments in mn, and the wi and mn high school playoffs

IceIsNice
08-13-2008, 10:35 AM
This is not the actual quote, please follow this link

.....the Maggog thread got a bit off topic, but my post there is relative to this thread as well

notfromaroundhere
08-13-2008, 10:43 AM
I have always found that for a D1 coach to make a decision on a potential future recruit they like to watch them compete against top competition, not a camp environment.
Don't get me wrong camp's are fine, for what they are, but the competition is the key.

With the Brown Tournament, half of the participants had just finished the 5 day camp where a good number of D1 and D3 coaches got an extended look at these girls in both game (they have their own tournament during the week) and practice settings.

PolarIce
08-13-2008, 10:46 AM
I don't think there is any magic formula for being recruited.:) It does help to do these things and I know I am stating the obvious:

Attend tournaments that scouts are at.

Attend camps of a college you would like to attend.

Communicate with college coaches of schools you would like to attend.

Have talent, a good attitude, and good grades/act scores.

Development camp selection and attendance seems to help as well.

boston buzz
08-13-2008, 11:51 AM
EXPOSURE:CAMPS

Best camp in East would have to be Rinksport, heavily attended by both D-1 and D-3 schools.

Brown, hnib and chowder cup have limited numbers of scouts.

Tournaments:

naha
polar bears
stoney creek
st jerome (thanksgiving)
USA Nationals
Prep school post season and also Prep school holiday tournaments in December.

HNIB is not good for exposer. Very few if any college coaches attend this tournament. The rest I agree with.

notfromaroundhere
08-13-2008, 11:56 AM
EXPOSURE:CAMPS

Best camp in East would have to be Rinksport, heavily attended by both D-1 and D-3 schools.

Brown, hnib and chowder cup have limited numbers of scouts.

Tournaments:

naha
polar bears
stoney creek
st jerome (thanksgiving)
USA Nationals
Prep school post season and also Prep school holiday tournaments in December.

When I was at Foxboro at the Chowder Cup, there were no fewer than 2 dozen coaches/scouts upstairs. I'm not quite sure what you call limited.

OnMAA
08-13-2008, 12:07 PM
When I was at Foxboro at the Chowder Cup, there were no fewer than 2 dozen coaches/scouts upstairs. I'm not quite sure what you call limited.

I saw various scouts from many schools at all three rinks at chowder. Even at the Warehouse Barn in Dedham there were a bunch. The trick with Chowder is that not all the games are at one location. Many other tourneys (Stoney, Polar Bear, NAHA) have all their games close to each other or in the same facility for a given division.

leafsfan
08-13-2008, 12:12 PM
I don't think there is any magic formula for being recruited.:) It does help to do these things and I know I am stating the obvious:

Attend tournaments that scouts are at.

Attend camps of a college you would like to attend.

Communicate with college coaches of schools you would like to attend.

Have talent, a good attitude, and good grades/act scores.

Development camp selection and attendance seems to help as well.

No matter what tournament or venue your daughter is playing in, say to her, always play your best because you never know who might be watching........

Sweden
08-13-2008, 12:46 PM
My two cents. Focus on good grades and if you are a good player, you will be found