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finalapprch
08-08-2007, 01:38 PM
Does anyone know if the new NCAA rules pertaining to the number of years allowed in High School will affect the prep's in anyway? I sounds like to me there may be problems with the PG option.

notfromaroundhere
08-08-2007, 01:50 PM
I'm not aware of the rule, could you post it?

gotice
08-08-2007, 02:00 PM
I'm not aware of the rule, could you post it?

The new rule states that a student has 4 years to complete the new 16 required courses that the NCAA requires to be cleared for scholarship sports.

In other words if your daughter starts her high school years in one school and then transfers to a prep school and is required to repeat a grade (seems to be somewhat common in Prep schools) she will need to make sure that she has completed the required 16 core classes by the end of her Junior year, since technically that is her 4th year of high school. There is an exception, that she can complete one of the 16 core classes her 5th year of high school.

If you plan to enter college in 2008 or after, you will need to present 16 core courses in the following breakdown:

4 years of English
3 years of mathematics (Algebra I or higher)
2 years of natural/physical science (one must be a lab science)
1 year of additional English, math or science
2 years of social studies
4 years of additional core courses (from any area listed above, or from foreign language, nondoctrinal religion or philosophy)

OnMAA
08-08-2007, 02:06 PM
The new rule states that a student has 4 years to complete the new 16 required courses that the NCAA requires to be cleared for scholarship sports.

In other words if your daughter starts her high school years in one school and then transfers to a prep school and is required to repeat a grade (seems to be somewhat common in Prep schools) she will need to make sure that she has completed the required 16 core classes by the end of her Junior year, since technically that is her 4th year of high school. There is an exception, that she can complete one of the 16 core classes her 5th year of high school.

If you plan to enter college in 2008 or after, you will need to present 16 core course to be completed in 4 years

This new rule could have a large affect on the Quebec players coming out the the CEGEP system as well. Their high school system goes until grade 11 followed by 2 or 3 years of CEGEP prior to university. As a result of this system many Quebec originated players tend to be at least one year older than their counterparts from other Canadian Provinces when entering university. Some of them do 3 years of CEGEP and step onto a univeristy campus at or close to the age of 20.

gotice
08-08-2007, 02:13 PM
This new rule could have a large affect on the Quebec players coming out the the CEGEP system as well. Their high school system goes until grade 11 followed by 2 or 3 years of CEGEP prior to university. As a result of this system many Quebec originated players tend to be at least one year older than their counterparts from other Canadian Provinces when entering university. Some of them do 3 years of CEGEP and step onto a univeristy campus at or close to the age of 20.

Like most things with regards to the NCAA, rules for international students is different than that for USA students, so this may or may not have an affect on the Canadian players.

pondsk8r
08-08-2007, 03:11 PM
The new rule states that a student has 4 years to complete the new 16 required courses that the NCAA requires to be cleared for scholarship sports.

In other words if your daughter starts her high school years in one school and then transfers to a prep school and is required to repeat a grade (seems to be somewhat common in Prep schools) she will need to make sure that she has completed the required 16 core classes by the end of her Junior year, since technically that is her 4th year of high school. There is an exception, that she can complete one of the 16 core classes her 5th year of high school.

If you plan to enter college in 2008 or after, you will need to present 16 core courses in the following breakdown:

4 years of English
3 years of mathematics (Algebra I or higher)
2 years of natural/physical science (one must be a lab science)
1 year of additional English, math or science
2 years of social studies
4 years of additional core courses (from any area listed above, or from foreign language, nondoctrinal religion or philosophy)

This shouold not pose a problem for players attending accredited high schools and prep schools, even if they repeat a year or take a PG year. I think the rule is aimed at discouraging players from attending sports institutions that offer few or no academic courses. Most of these are aimed at kids trying to get basketball scholarships. The NCAA discredited a number of these "diploma mills" last year and banned some of them this year. (Bridgton Academy in Maine, a legitmate academic boys school but is all PG,was on the list but was removed after the NCAA visited the school.) This should not pose a problem for NAHA, either, as most of its players follow their high school curriculum.

notfromaroundhere
08-08-2007, 03:12 PM
The new rule states that a student has 4 years to complete the new 16 required courses that the NCAA requires to be cleared for scholarship sports.

In other words if your daughter starts her high school years in one school and then transfers to a prep school and is required to repeat a grade (seems to be somewhat common in Prep schools) she will need to make sure that she has completed the required 16 core classes by the end of her Junior year, since technically that is her 4th year of high school. There is an exception, that she can complete one of the 16 core classes her 5th year of high school.

If you plan to enter college in 2008 or after, you will need to present 16 core courses in the following breakdown:

4 years of English
3 years of mathematics (Algebra I or higher)
2 years of natural/physical science (one must be a lab science)
1 year of additional English, math or science
2 years of social studies
4 years of additional core courses (from any area listed above, or from foreign language, nondoctrinal religion or philosophy)

It doesn't sound like it will be too bad for most post grads. If you are taking a PG year for the traditional reasons (better college placement), you are probably OK because you will have finished those core courses during your normal 4 years. Now a kid repeating 10th or 11th grade and retaking several courses, may run into a problem.

gotice
08-08-2007, 03:17 PM
This shouold not pose a problem for players attending accredited high schools and prep schools, even if they repeat a year or take a PG year. I think the rule is aimed at discouraging players from attending sports institutions that offer few or no academic courses. Most of these are aimed at kids trying to get basketball scholarships. The NCAA discredited a number of these "diploma mills" last year and banned some of them this year. (Bridgton Academy in Maine, a legitmate academic boys school but is all PG,was on the list but was removed after the NCAA visited the school.) This should not pose a problem for NAHA, either, as most of its players follow their high school curriculum.

You are correct in that the rule was aimed at diploma mills, primarily in the sport of basketball, however, a student still has to finish his core subjects within 4 years from the time he starts high school, regardless of the school. Again, the student can finsih one of the 16 core classes in his or her 5th year of high school.

gotice
08-08-2007, 03:20 PM
It doesn't sound like it will be too bad for most post grads. If you are taking a PG year for the traditional reasons (better college placement), you are probably OK because you will have finished those core courses during your normal 4 years. Now a kid repeating 10th or 11th grade and retaking several courses, may run into a problem.

You are right that most PG players have already finished their high school requirements and are only PGing to boost their college recruitment in most cases. There are those that do PG to also boost their academic standing, but hopefully they have completed the required core classes before PG. The core classes may meet the NCAA requirements but not the requirements that a certain college may have in place.