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hockeyatlarge
10-01-2007, 01:18 PM
I don't feel that this has anything to do with education coming first that's a whole other situation. If you are sending your child to prep school for just sports your wealthy to begin with. I know from experience that all parents fill out a form concerning what publication exposure they are willing to expose their individual child to school wise. If you restrict your exposure why should that pertain to the whole team, just leave that person off roster. It probaby is soley a time issue from coaches point of view
RStarr
10-01-2007, 02:39 PM
curious why you think only well off parents put school first.
Swed, I was just teasin. I’m sure it goes both way, in fact, hockey oriented parents might even put more emphasis on school then "regular folk." The fact that these kids are in boarding school in the first place (whether hockey brought them there or not) says something about both the parents and players commitments to both school and hockey....
What I should have said is that I am sure there are a few Daddy Warbucks who would throw a fit it ay such information about their kid was released, even if it was in the name of good hockey. Parental pressure combined with a school being responsible for a bunch of underage children calls for the utmost privacy and protection of the students (and probably right full so…even though the rest of us would like to see the info)
I would have to agree with Star, as we tend to look at this strictly from the perspective of hockey lovers here in North America. However, there are a large percentage of prep school students from across the two ponds that come from extremely well to do families, including royalty. Those same students are required to play sports, and one can imagine that there are a number of those families who prefer to have junior's whereabouts and activities kept under wraps, or at the very least, not so easily accessible as a roster on a web site.
Can't these families afford fake ID's???
:D
77-22
10-02-2007, 10:10 AM
When I went to England and Scotland this year with a team each rink asked that I get the rink managers permission before Pictures were taken. I was curious and asked why. The only rink I got an answer from was in Scotland and he said that to "prevent parents in custody battles from using the pictures as evidence" -OK don't know how that works, but even when I took pictures at the Oxford College Rink I had to get a signed permission slip from the rink. All the rinks there was NO Flash Photography Allowed.
I have not come across this at any Prep School game, her schools business manager has asked that I not include the girls names on any picture postings.
Seriously, do you really think that indicating the name and hometown of a player on a roster list gives any pedophile or potential kidnapper any useful information they can't already derive. Private schools that are not boarding schools list this info all the time and also have many wealthy students. Not sure how many lawyers there are in the crowd responding to this but, as a lawyer, I find these arguments pretty far-fetched and can't imagine any court concluding liability for a school for having on the USHR website Buffy's name and hometown. Schools often don't list girls weight for obvious reasons.
notfromaroundhere
10-02-2007, 11:10 AM
Seriously, do you really think that indicating the name and hometown of a player on a roster list gives any pedophile or potential kidnapper any useful information they can't already derive. Private schools that are not boarding schools list this info all the time and also have many wealthy students. Not sure how many lawyers there are in the crowd responding to this but, as a lawyer, I find these arguments pretty far-fetched and can't imagine any court concluding liability for a school for having on the USHR website Buffy's name and hometown. Schools often don't list girls weight for obvious reasons.
I didn't say that I agreed with the idea of keeping all players info off of websites, but once upon a several years ago when I was getting the official training in maintaining a USA Hockey hosted team site, we were told that these were the rules (regarding Peewee and younger particularly) and those were the reasons.
Quite frankly, I find it ridiculous, but since common sense is the first casualty of the courts, this type of protection (including sleeping pill warning labels that indicate that this product "may cause drowziness" :eek: ) runs rampant.
It seems that once upon a time when enrolling my daughter in prep school, their contract indicated that I gave them permission to use her name and likeness in their promotional materials. I guess if the European Royalty don't like those clauses, they can stay at home. :p
sticks21
10-02-2007, 06:06 PM
on another note, anyone see any of the teams skating. UNOFICIALLY of course as in stick practice or captains practices.
i know cushing girls have been skating a bit as are taft.
I didn't say that I agreed with the idea of keeping all players info off of websites, but once upon a several years ago when I was getting the official training in maintaining a USA Hockey hosted team site, we were told that these were the rules (regarding Peewee and younger particularly) and those were the reasons.
Quite frankly, I find it ridiculous, but since common sense is the first casualty of the courts, this type of protection (including sleeping pill warning labels that indicate that this product "may cause drowziness" :eek: ) runs rampant.
It seems that once upon a time when enrolling my daughter in prep school, their contract indicated that I gave them permission to use her name and likeness in their promotional materials. I guess if the European Royalty don't like those clauses, they can stay at home. :p
Web sites hosted on the USA Hockey servers are not allowed to have photos, action, or otherwise, of players 15 years old or younger.
notfromaroundhere
10-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Web sites hosted on the USA Hockey servers are not allowed to have photos, action, or otherwise, of players 15 years old or younger.
Interesting how this rule has evolved. About 4 years ago, IIRC from my training, you could have pictures, but only those where you could not identify who was who (no names on jerseys) and if you had pictures with numbers, you couldn't put last names (initials were considered OK) on your site. The thing that was stressed was that you shouldn't be able to connect the dots.
Clearly, the rule was too complicated for your local website jockies.
The stupid thing was that on the Nationals pages, they clearly violated those rules by putting the picture and name of a 12U girl goalie on the Nationals feature pages. Do as I say, not as I do! :confused:
77-22
10-03-2007, 07:51 AM
Web sites hosted on the USA Hockey servers are not allowed to have photos, action, or otherwise, of players 15 years old or younger.
The National Develoment Camp Photos include the U15's that are posted perhaps it is younger than 15 but the U14's in Rochester last year were posted as well.
The National Develoment Camp Photos include the U15's that are posted perhaps it is younger than 15 but the U14's in Rochester last year were posted as well.
The rule applies to the association web sites that USA Hockey hosts for free, not their own web site, which as you have pointed out, often features photos (and names) of younger players as part of content.
gotice
10-03-2007, 09:30 AM
The rule applies to the association web sites that USA Hockey hosts for free, not their own web site, which as you have pointed out, often features photos (and names) of younger players as part of content.
Just curious, but why have a rule to protect the identity of your members on member sites and then not apply that same rule to your own site. Either you are about protecting all of your members, all of the time or not.
Just curious, but why have a rule to protect the identity of your members on member sites and then not apply that same rule to your own site. Either you are about protecting all of your members, all of the time or not.
I don't have the slightest clue. The only thing I can think of is that they have some sort of signed waivers for participants of Nationals or the NDCs. I can understand banning head shots, but I see no reason for doing the same with action shots, given that players are pretty much indistinguishable. :confused:
Sweden
10-03-2007, 10:11 AM
I think the girls may sign a waiver as part of the camp info packet
gotice
10-03-2007, 10:19 AM
I think the girls may sign a waiver as part of the camp info packet
the same can be done for any team or organization. I know that when I ran the site for my daughter's team when she was younger, I had every parent inform me via email, if it was acceptable or not for their player's picture to appear on the site. I also only used first names as a precaution.
77-22
10-04-2007, 03:23 PM
I post a blanket message on my site to notify me if anyone objects to a picture to notify me and I will take it down immediately. Have had only one request so far and that was for a bad hair day.
Also USA Hockey gave me the rights to display, not sell pictures I took at the NDC and I posted the content of that email on the first picture in the site.
So I am confused as to the reason an affiliate can not post. :confused:
Oh well
hockeyatlarge
10-05-2007, 11:29 AM
Question: I understand Winter sports can't start until Fall over BUT can a team practice prior to tryouts? Is it ok by league rules to do so? Any new info on Loomis, Taft, Hotchkiss, or others that you can share ?
BKDad
10-05-2007, 11:56 AM
When in the week would they have time for that? :rolleyes:
biffgnar
10-05-2007, 12:29 PM
Based on what my daughter has said, it sounds like at her school once the ice is down there are slots of time where the ice is open for kids to skate if they want to, but no actual practices till after tryouts in Nov. Not positive when ice goes down at the various schools. I seem to recall from some of our campus visits that some schools use the rink as indoor practice space for other sports when ice is not down so that may dictate some of the timing.
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