The Official Thread of the 2006 Boston Red Sox

[thecomicbookguy]

According to some physicist (I came in late on the discussion on WEEI), the ball Ortiz hit to Papelbon left his bat at approzimately 127 mph and travelled 395 feet. Had that ball been hit on a night later in the summer, when the temp was 70 degrees, and there was no wind (instead of 40 degrees and a 16mph wind blowing straight in), the ball would have travelled 62 feet farther. And had that wind been blowing out, the ball would have gone 509 feet.

Basically, he CRUSHED it. :eek: :)

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According to some physicist (I came in late on the discussion on WEEI), the ball Ortiz hit to Papelbon left his bat at approzimately 127 mph and travelled 395 feet. Had that ball been hit on a night later in the summer, when the temp was 70 degrees, and there was no wind (instead of 40 degrees and a 16mph wind blowing straight in), the ball would have travelled 62 feet farther. And had that wind been blowing out, the ball would have gone 509 feet.

Basically, he CRUSHED it. :eek: :)http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/05/02/epstein_spells_out_his_defense_of_move/?page=3

They must have been reading from the Globe. That's awfully intellectual to have originated on EEI, don't ya think?

[mookie1995]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/05/02/epstein_spells_out_his_defense_of_move/?page=3

They must have been reading from the Globe. That's awfully intellectual to have originated on EEI, don't ya think?


not that the Glob is smart...I still love the fact the Shank wrote ad nauseam after the Papi signing about how much he hated it and it smacked of 'red sox as usual...'

--good call Danny!

[Stillings]

not to mention that the Globe distributes people's credit card information.

[Blackout]

You can block the bag so long as their is a play. Play meaning you're about to receive the ball, have the ball etc. If you're standing on the bag blocking a runner (or obstructing a runner in anyway w/ out a play on him) rounding the bases etc and there is no play (meaning the ball isn't coming to ya anytime soon for a play on the runner) then it's obstruction.

So long as their is a play not only is it legal, but you're SUPPOSED to if it is going to assist in making the out. Pretty much fundamentals.

right, thats what i said originally

[Blackout]

According to some physicist (I came in late on the discussion on WEEI), the ball Ortiz hit to Papelbon left his bat at approzimately 127 mph and travelled 395 feet. Had that ball been hit on a night later in the summer, when the temp was 70 degrees, and there was no wind (instead of 40 degrees and a 16mph wind blowing straight in), the ball would have travelled 62 feet farther. And had that wind been blowing out, the ball would have gone 509 feet.

Basically, he CRUSHED it. :eek: :)

am i missing something? 395 + 62 = 509?? :confused:

[thecomicbookguy]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/05/02/epstein_spells_out_his_defense_of_move/?page=3

They must have been reading from the Globe. That's awfully intellectual to have originated on EEI, don't ya think?

That's probably where they got it from. Like I said, I turned it on while they were already talking about it. I figured it was an e-mail someone had sent in.

I was a little off on the velocity - 120.7, not 127. Sorry.

[Haunted]

am i missing something? 395 + 62 = 509?? :confused:
No, the 62' was if there was no wind. Add wind blowing out, and it would have traveled ever further.

[Westfield Eagle]

I agree about feeling bad for Damon. I wasn't going to boo, nor was I going to cheer. It did go a little overboard. Some of the signs were eyeroll inducing. That said, I thought he overdid it with the tip of the hat to the crowd. Went on too long, seemed a bit hammy, like it was planned. Unlike OC's return where I think he did that because it stunned him that the crowd cheered for him.

I don't feel bad for him whatsoever. I realize sports are about business and Johnny Damon made a business decision in going to New York. That's fine. I can't criticize him for taking more money. As a fan I can "hate" the guy for what he did though. He was a cult hero here in New England and went through some wars with the Sox against the Yanks.

The Sox offered him a fair contract and probably thought he would accept the "hometown" discount. He didn't. He traded in everything he had here for a few extra bucks and pinstripes. If he went to any other team I wouldn't have cared. Talk is cheap, but we're talking about a guy who said he would never play for the Yankees, a guy who shaved and cut his hair, a guy who epitomizes the word sellout.

I love what he did in Boston and will always appreciate him contributing to the World Series team, but I think the signs were justified and I don't have a problem with people voicing their displeasure with him.

[Blackout]

No, the 62' was if there was no wind. Add wind blowing out, and it would have traveled ever further.

thanks, i told you i missed something

[kennedy]

I'm not sure where you work, but to me, 12mil (I believe the Yankees offered 52 vs. the Sox 40?) is a bit more than a "few bucks". That's a LOT of money, and though Damon has made a good amount in his career, this is, in all likelihood, his last big contract.

When are people going to realize that the rivalry doesn't matter nearly as much to those on the field, as it does to those in the stands?

I can't fault the guy over 12 million bucks.

[Westfield Eagle]

When are people going to realize that the rivalry doesn't matter nearly as much to those on the field, as it does to those in the stands?

I can't fault the guy over 12 million bucks.

People do realize this. That doesn't mean it shouldn't affect you as a fan of your team.

I also said that I can't fault him for taking more money, but I still have a right to be upset about him leaving Boston for New York.

[TerrierByAssociation#2]

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[kennedy]

People do realize this. That doesn't mean it shouldn't affect you as a fan of your team.

I also said that I can't fault him for taking more money, but I still have a right to be upset about him leaving Boston for New York.
If you, admittedly, can't fault him for taking more money, I don't see how you can rationally be upset with him for leaving. I would cheer him for what he did in Boston, and cheer as soon as he strikes out against Beckett, but I'm not going to boo him.

Heck, I'm happier with Crisp considering his age. The 2004 champs have been systematically dismantled so this isn't new to anyone, and if Damon wants to jump ship for the dough, its going to make it that much better to roll over the Yankees now.

[Jon]

I can't fault the guy over 12 million bucks.
So does anyone else find it funny that the middle class of the world has inadvertently created a fair sized group of people who get paid ridiculous amounts of money for playing games, and chooses to complain about said primadonnas, even though we're the people supporting this lunacy through jersey sales, exorbitant ticket prices, cable TV and sports memorabilia?

We're all bourgeousie(sic) fools. :p ;)

[kennedy]

So does anyone else find it funny that the middle class of the world has inadvertently created a fair sized group of people who get paid ridiculous amounts of money for playing games, and chooses to complain about said primadonnas, even though we're the people supporting this lunacy through jersey sales, exorbitant ticket prices, cable TV and sports memorabilia?

We're all bourgeousie(sic) fools. :p ;)
And its only getting worse! I certainly don't see it stopping anywhere. Anyone have any idea how the average player salary for a major professional athlete has outpaced the average salary (percentage wise) for Americans over the last 10-15 years?

[Haunted]

Anyone have any idea how the average player salary for a major professional athlete has outpaced the average salary (percentage wise) for Americans over the last 10-15 years?
ESPN, corporate sponsorships (naming rights, luxury boxes, etc.) as tax write-offs, greater merchandising, internet...

If you eliminate a company's ability to write off money spent on naming rights and luxury boxes, they wouldn't do it anymore, and team incomes would drop dramatically, as would payrolls. I'm not saying its right, but that's one way.

[Blackout]

the thing that bugged me about the boos last night and the signs is that... well there are alot of jerks in the game, and Johnny isnt one of them. He loves baseball and he was VERY good to the Boston fans over the years.

If you want to make a sign about Judas, I think Clemens works better.

[kennedy]

ESPN, corporate sponsorships (naming rights, luxury boxes, etc.) as tax write-offs, greater merchandising, internet...

If you eliminate a company's ability to write off money spent on naming rights and luxury boxes, they wouldn't do it anymore, and team incomes would drop dramatically, as would payrolls. I'm not saying its right, but that's one way.
I think you misunderstood my question. I understand HOW it happened, and continues to happen. My query is how the NUMBERS have worked. How much more growth has the average athlete seen in pay over the last 15 years vs. how much growth the average american has seen.

[Haunted]

I think you misunderstood my question. I understand HOW it happened, and continues to happen. My query is how the NUMBERS have worked. How much more growth has the average athlete seen in pay over the last 15 years vs. how much growth the average american has seen.
Oh. :o Yeah, swing and a miss there.

I think I remember hearing when ARod and Manny signed their contracts in like 2001 that if Babe Ruth's salary were inflatation adjusted, it's be less than $200,000/year.