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RichS
04-30-2006, 05:47 PM
Heck, if not run, at least don't do your whole "take off my batting gloves" routine.

That was an inside the park home run for anybody who runs it out.

Maybe so but isn't that just one of those things that you Sox fans tolerate as "Manny being Manny?" :p
Blackout
05-01-2006, 11:20 AM
Dougie's goin' deep tonight.
KevinNU7
05-01-2006, 12:42 PM
Glad to see that DM is back
Terrierbyassociation
05-01-2006, 12:43 PM
So Clay Hensley, cash, and a player to be named later for Mark Loretta.

Nice.

Kevin Towers is an idiot.
Haunted
05-01-2006, 12:44 PM
Kevin Towers is an idiot.
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I'm not sure it was necessary, but considering what we're giving up, this is great!!!
Terrierbyassociation
05-01-2006, 12:46 PM
Yeah Kevin Towers, I can trade you 3 quarters for a dollar!
Blackout
05-01-2006, 12:47 PM
So Clay Hensley, cash, and a player to be named later for Mark Loretta.

Nice.

Kevin Towers is an idiot.

It's Cla Meredith. And I dont like the deal. Cla is pretty **** good, and added a changeup this year that's really helped him. I'm sad to see him go.
BC ZamboniGuy Cult
05-01-2006, 01:01 PM
You can't seriously believe it wouldn't be at least a run higher if he were still pitching for the Sox, can you?

Exactly. He has a weird delivery and he's fooling batters who have never seen him before. That ERA will go up once they figure him out.
BC ZamboniGuy Cult
05-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Seanez should not pitch. Period

He deserves a chance to bring that ERA down after the numbers he posted last season.
JohnB
05-01-2006, 02:24 PM
You can't seriously believe it wouldn't be at least a run higher if he were still pitching for the Sox, can you?

So you'd rather have Clement's 6.50 in what's supposed to be the "strong" part of the season instead of an Arroyo in the mid 3's? Or even a 4 or 4.5?

Hell I'd take it... and I believe Arroyo continues to improve, with or without the Sox... he'll never be a #1 but he's a solid #3 or #4 guy who seems to improve w/ experience.

Great move getting DM back...
Westfield Eagle
05-01-2006, 02:35 PM
He deserves a chance to bring that ERA down after the numbers he posted last season.

He can have that chance in mop-up duty...
Blackout
05-01-2006, 02:43 PM
He deserves a chance to bring that ERA down after the numbers he posted last season.

not after the crap fest in '04
UMO Better Blues
05-01-2006, 02:43 PM
So Clay Hensley, cash, and a player to be named later for Mark Loretta.

Nice.

Kevin Towers is an idiot.

Not a PTBNL. The other player was Bard. Pretty good. "We'll give you our crappy catcher for your good catcher."
Blackout
05-01-2006, 02:45 PM
I love Mira, but I wouldnt call him good. 'Servicable' is a better adjective.
Terrierbyassociation
05-01-2006, 02:47 PM
Not a PTBNL. The other player was Bard. Pretty good. "We'll give you our crappy catcher for your good catcher."

We'll give you our catcher who can't catch, for your catcher that can.

And for Mark Loretta, a bunch of stinky players.

For Mark Loretta, you would think they would have at least gotten one arm, maybe Abe Alvarez, to go into that rotation.
UMO Better Blues
05-01-2006, 02:53 PM
I love Mira, but I wouldnt call him good. 'Servicable' is a better adjective.

When it comes to being a back up catcher almost exclusively catching knuckleballs, I'd call 'Belli very good. He's decent offensively and after watching Bard struggle, I think we all have a better appreciation for 'Belli's defensive skills. The guy who was traded for him had so many passed balls that MLB was considering renaming the stat "passed Bards."
TerrierByAssociation#2
05-01-2006, 02:56 PM
We'll give you our catcher who can't catch, for your catcher that can.

And for Mark Loretta, a bunch of stinky players.

For Mark Loretta, you would think they would have at least gotten one arm, maybe Abe Alvarez, to go into that rotation.

I must've missed the part where the Padres have a knuckleballer to worry about.

Doug Mirabelli is a generic veteran backup catcher whose bat is a Fenway mirage. Josh Bard is pretty much the same player, only eight years younger so he has more upside. That's already an even deal for San Diego. Meredith is just a free prospect.

The Loretta/Mirabelli trade was remarkably stupid and pointless, but I don't see how anyone could spin this new deal as a bad one for Towers.
Westfield Eagle
05-01-2006, 03:51 PM
I love Mira, but I wouldnt call him good. 'Servicable' is a better adjective.

Wakefield is comfortable with Mirabelli. Doug adds some additional pop as well. He's as good a backup catcher as you could ask for in my opinion.
Westfield Eagle
05-01-2006, 03:52 PM
What exactly is so great about Mark Loretta anyway?
Blackout
05-01-2006, 04:53 PM
What exactly is so great about Mark Loretta anyway?

he's not Bellhorn or Graffanino?