The Official Thread of the 2006 Boston Red Sox

[HEFan4Life]

Note also that he was coming off an extra day's rest because of the off day.

Still, I was surprised to see him start the inning; I figured that the last three innings would be some combination of Timlin, Foulke, and Papelbon. But I also don't think it is that worrisome. I'd worry more about Pedro throwing 130+ than Schilling.

Foulke made one bad pitch, but that changeup is nasty. Like Remy said, it looks like a screwball. Timlin still scares me. He threw five balls to Grady Sizemore, which would have loaded the bases. Fortunately, Sizemore swung at two of them.

I'm really impressed with Travis Hafner. Not only did he get around on a high fastball -- he actually drove it.

He did have a bit of extra rest and I agree that pedro would be more worrisome, but schilling isn't that young anymore and considering the past year plus of rehab I don't think they should push him too fast at this point of the season on a cold night when it wasnt necessary. I agree with the concern with timlin, fortunately foulke and papelbon have been really good. Hafner is a monster, everyone overlooks his #s from last year and the year before, but he was right there with A-rod and Ortiz if he didn't miss a month of the season due to injury.

[JohnB]

And this summer some west-coast fans was saying, "I dont want Wells, period. He was an *** in Boston, he was an *** everywhere else, he's an *** on the field, he's an *** off the field. I dont care what we need, we shouldnt lower our standards to get this guy."

Not the best comparison, and I'm not saying I disagree with you - I think Clemens is a GREAT pitcher, but I have major reservations about seeing him in Boston again - I'm just sayin'. :)

right... why would we want Clemens when we have Clement doing his 2nd half self destruction to go w/ future Cy Young candidate Lenny F'in Denardo?

[Scarlet]

but in New York, he'd be THE DIFFERENCE (since their rotation is shakier than Boston's). That, and Steinbrenner's fat checkbook.


And since he's going into the HOF with a Yankees hat I would assume he would wind up there. Why bother going anywhere else since they're his favorite team he played for.

If Roger wants to come here, then great. I just want it to be the rejuvenated Roger we saw win Cy Young Awards these past few years and not the fat, lazy, ungracious, lying Roger that left here all those years ago. In that instance I blame the Red Sox, Roger and Roger's fat, greedy agents. Everyone handled that poorly. But I was most annoyed with Roger saying he wanted to pitch closer to his family and then signing a deal with a team that was FURTHER AWAY than the Red Sox. He did not want to be in Boston and it showed. If he wants to pitch here, and can pitch at the amazing level he's been pitching at, then sign him up. As long as he doesn't make any ridiculous demands.

[Terrierbyassociation]

He's not going into the Hall as a Yankee.

[kennedy]

Clemens has like two-thirds of his career wins with the Sox.

Which brings up an interesting point. If the world ended today, does Manny go in with the Sox? There are a number of players that this dilemma would apply to in the age of free agency and trades and zero-team-loyalty.

[NUJerseyJohn]

He's not going into the Hall as a Yankee.
Didn't Wade Boggs go in as a Devil Ray? :D :p

[Terrierbyassociation]

Didn't Wade Boggs go in as a Devil Ray? :D :p

He got to choose, after that debacle, the HOF decided that they were going to pick which hat the player would be wearing on the HoF plaque.

[kennedy]

Didn't Wade Boggs go in as a Devil Ray? :D :p
Wasn't that a result of Boggs selling his soul to the, pardon the pun, devil? Didn't he get more money in his last contract because he agreed to wear a Rays hat into the Hall?

Between that and the horse in Yankee Stadium thing, considering Wade Boggs my favorite baseball player (just ahead of Spike Owen and Marty Barrett) growing up ranks right up there on my list of biggest regrets in life.

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Clemens has like two-thirds of his career wins with the Sox.

Which brings up an interesting point. If the world ended today, does Manny go in with the Sox? There are a number of players that this dilemma would apply to in the age of free agency and trades and zero-team-loyalty.If the world ended today, Manny's hat would be the least of our worries. ;)

But I agree with you on the dilemma. Players, even HOF caliber players don't spend all or a large majority of their career with one team any more. I think that, in the future, the plaques should have a generic hat.

[kennedy]

Ok, heres an interesting one. My roomate contends that Schilling is a HOFer when all is said and done. I don't think that his numbers necessarily warrant it, but his World Series performances and all that, blah, blah blah.

Hypothetically, if Schilling goes, what hat does he wear.

[Terrierbyassociation]

If he went that's a really difficult decision. His most years were with Philly, his best were with Arizona(I think) and he has that memorable moment with the Sox.

[Haunted]

If he went that's a really difficult decision. His most years were with Philly, his best were with Arizona(I think) and he has that memorable moment with the Sox.
And this is exactly why MLB should decide.

[ScottK]

But I was most annoyed with Roger saying he wanted to pitch closer to his family and then signing a deal with a team that was FURTHER AWAY than the Red Sox.


Boston to Katy, TX: 1625 miles
Toronto to Katy, TX: 1317 miles

Didn't Wade Boggs go in as a Devil Ray? :D :p
Boggs is wearing a Red Sox hat on his plaque: http://www.baseballhalloffame.com/hofers_and_honorees/plaques/boggs_wade.htm

[Haunted]

Boston to Katy, TX: 1625 miles
Toronto to Katy, TX: 1317 miles
There you go with all your "facts" and "statistics". Can't you just accept Known Truth for what it is? ;) Toronto's in Canada for christ's sake!

:p

[thecomicbookguy]

Boston to Katy, TX: 1625 miles
Toronto to Katy, TX: 1317 miles


Boggs is wearing a Red Sox hat on his plaque: http://www.baseballhalloffame.com/hofers_and_honorees/plaques/boggs_wade.htm

You have to go through customs when flying into/out of Canada. Not when flying into/out of Boston. Yeah...so, there.

And I'm pretty sure Boggs let MLB decide, though there was a lot of controversy over it. I heard interviews with him around his induction, and he was always asked about which hat he'd have - I seem to recall him saying that MLB would decide, not him.

[Blackout]

tonight I went to the Paw Sox game. Lester was ok, got in some jams, but picked off 2 runners. Only threw 59 pitches. Meredith had his first bad outing of the year. Pedroia belted a double, Machado homered.

Delmon Young is sitting down for awhile. The incident was BAD, threw the bad right at the umpire, and turned his back and kept walking. I'm thinking 20 games, I guess we'll see.

[kennedy]

Delmon Young is sitting down for awhile. The incident was BAD, threw the bad right at the umpire, and turned his back and kept walking. I'm thinking 20 games, I guess we'll see.
I listened to the Durham and the Pawtucket broadcasts after the fact. Neither one of them really made the distinction between the bat incidentally hitting the umpire, or whether it was thrown AT the umpire. Both called it an underhanded flip, and both said it was a horrible decision, and both said he'd sit for a while.

Not sure when the decision would be handed down, but this being a national story now (ESPN's bottom line), I would imagine that might expedite the process.

Well, this gives Nyjer the chance to overtake him for the MiLB lead in steals, though Upton has 12 now as well.

[Haunted]

Why can't they hit for Wakefield? :confused: :(

[Blackout]

I listened to the Durham and the Pawtucket broadcasts after the fact. Neither one of them really made the distinction between the bat incidentally hitting the umpire, or whether it was thrown AT the umpire. Both called it an underhanded flip, and both said it was a horrible decision, and both said he'd sit for a while.

Not sure when the decision would be handed down, but this being a national story now (ESPN's bottom line), I would imagine that might expedite the process.

Well, this gives Nyjer the chance to overtake him for the MiLB lead in steals, though Upton has 12 now as well.

This is what happened, he never left the box after being rung up. He stood there like he was still up for about 15 seonds, showing up the ump, finally he started to walk away. Took 2 steps and the ump tossed him. He turned and flipped the bat without looking (threw it as he turned). The ump was still there, and it hit him square. Young paused, watched the bat fall to the ground, and turned his back the way an angry girl flips her hair. He walked strtaight to the clubhouse. The Durham dugout was in shock.

SO, maybe he didnt mean to hit the ump, but the fact he showed NO remorse makes him even more guilty. He's toast for awhile (also, the pitch looked pretty good. I wasnt dead-on behind home plate, but I was close. Catcher didnt move his mitt).

[kennedy]

These scab umpires have been a problem in the MiLB season thus far.

Two examples from last night. Check swing, appeal down to first. The base umpire isn't paying attention, doesn't even realize they're appealing to him, isn't even LOOKING towards the plate. They try again, he still doesn't flinch. Finally someone from the dugout yells at him, and he throws the arm out wide to say the batter didn't swing.

In the eighth, the manager goes to the mound to talk to the pitcher...or so we think. The umpire comes out to break it up after a minute, and the manager just starts tearing into him. The home plate umpire tosses him. As he leaves the field two minutes later, the base umpire says something, and the manager fires back over his shoulder and then the BASE umpire tosses him (can you be thrown out twice? let alone on the same trip out to the field?).

The thing is, he walked right back to the dugout, and stayed there for the rest of the game. No one made him leave, they just started the game right up again.

Never seen anything like it.