The Official Thread of the 2006 Boston Red Sox

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Clement pitched well tonight. Timlin just couldn't get the job done.

Edit: I expect members of RSN on USCHO to complain about Clement's performance tonight. :rolleyes:And Timlin allows another inherited runner to score. It's becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy at this point. I think that Clement pitched very well, but I was shocked to see him start the 8th. They were starting to get to him, and Timlin seems to do better when he starts an inning (i.e. doesn't inherit any runners)

[Haunted]

I think that Clement pitched very well, but I was shocked to see him start the 8th. They were starting to get to him, and Timlin seems to do better when he starts an inning (i.e. doesn't inherit any runners)
Still, giving up back to back doubles will give up a run. Timlin was just off last night.

[Pal]

I'll take Timlin over most any other set-up P in the league right now. Two wins, 1.35 ERA. A steady presence in the 8th and in the clubhouse. No concern from me.

The ERA is a little deceiving since those IRs are charged to the pitcher he replaced. I'm a little concerned since he's allowed a baserunner to reach in each of his outings this season. You can overcome that when you start the inning, but there's no way he should come in with a runner on base. Ever. Don't get me wrong, he's still very reliable, but I think he's starting to show his age.

[JohnB]

I think that Clement pitched very well, but I was shocked to see him start the 8th.


A step in the right direction but christ, it's the Devil Rays. Giving up 2 runs to them = 20 runs to a Toronto or NYY lineup.

Why they even consider putting Timlin in w/ anyone on base is beyond me. The results are clearly automatic at this point, even to the Devil Rays.

SteveF was right... we really need more pop on the corners then that Youkilis guy... he's dragging the Sox down. :rolleyes:

[Terrierbyassociation]

Actually, Tampa Bay has a superior lineup to the Blue Jays.

[JohnB]

Actually, Tampa Bay has a superior lineup to the Blue Jays.


you're right, my bad. KC would have put up 30 runs though... they're the powerhouse lineup. :rolleyes:

[Lord Chumley]

What a morning. The Red Sox are in first place, the Yankees are in last place, and the NY Rangers choked last night thanks to BC grad Brian Gionta. I may go play the lottery today. :)

[thecomicbookguy]

Well, I don't know how it would end the ballgame with 1 out and no one on. ;)

D'oh! Right, the 2nd out was the strikeout as Crawford stole second. :o

I still think it would have been a 1-2-3 inning had Crawford not managed to make contact there.

And JohnB - the Devil Rays offense isn't as bad as it has been in past years, and really hasn't been it's problem area in the past couple of years. Pitching and defense has been. The bigger problem last night was the 8 innings it took the Red Sox to score 7 runs.

[Haunted]

I still think it would have been a 1-2-3 inning had Crawford not managed to make contact there.
You're probably right there. Cantu and Lee had tremendous at bats. However, it was nice to see how Paps responded when he put himself in trouble. I'm sure that's why no one was warming. Tito probably thought "win or lose, this is his game now".

And JohnB - the Devil Rays offense isn't as bad as it has been in past years, and really hasn't been it's problem area in the past couple of years. Pitching and defense has been. The bigger problem last night was the 8 innings it took the Red Sox to score 7 runs.
Their lineup isn't as deep as others, but it's pretty good. Lots of speed, some serious pop from Cantu and Huff (when he's there). Travis Lee is very underrated. Carl Crawford and Rocco Baldelli are legit Major League players, and would have much better "names" were they on any other teams. Joey Gathright is fast as anyone in baseball.
tCBG's right - their pitching is awful.

[JohnB]

D'oh! Right, the 2nd out was the strikeout as Crawford stole second. :o

I still think it would have been a 1-2-3 inning had Crawford not managed to make contact there.

And JohnB - the Devil Rays offense isn't as bad as it has been in past years, and really hasn't been it's problem area in the past couple of years. Pitching and defense has been. The bigger problem last night was the 8 innings it took the Red Sox to score 7 runs.

I guess that explains why they're a better offense then Toronto who leads the AL in just about every offensive category.

1st -Tor Team Batting Avg: 324
10th - TB Team Batting Avg: 265
:rolleyes:

[Westfield Eagle]

Actually, Tampa Bay has a superior lineup to the Blue Jays.

:confused:

[thecomicbookguy]

I guess that explains why they're a better offense then Toronto who leads the AL in just about every offensive category.

1st -Tor Team Batting Avg: 324
10th - TB Team Batting Avg: 265
:rolleyes:

Where did I compare Tampa's offense to Toronto's? Anywhere? Did I even mention Toronto in that post? And finally, did I even suggest that Tampa's offense is comparable to anyone else's offense in the AL East or in MLB in general?

I don't think I did...no, in fact, I know I didn't. So take your ":rolleyes:" and stuff it into your dresser drawer with your "Pittsburgh Steelers 2004 AFC Champions" and "Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl XXXIX Champions" T-shirts.

[JohnB]

Where did I compare Tampa's offense to Toronto's? Anywhere? Did I even mention Toronto in that post? And finally, did I even suggest that Tampa's offense is comparable to anyone else's offense in the AL East or in MLB in general?

I don't think I did...no, in fact, I know I didn't. So take your ":rolleyes:" and stuff it into your dresser drawer with your "Pittsburgh Steelers 2004 AFC Champions" and "Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl XXXIX Champions" T-shirts.

Try and keep up w/out getting hostile. I simply stated TB has lousy production and if it had been Toronto or NY those 2 runs Clement gave up would have probably been 20. TBA responded saying TB had a better offense then Toronto. You then went on your lil stint about offense not being TB's problem and how they're offense has improved etc. Sooo I was simply following the logical trail of the discussion which you apparently jumped in mid stream.
(and for the record I don't think TB's offense has improved, in fact what I'm seeing early on is Piniella did a much better job getting production out of the TB lineup and they're going to be much worse this year)
You keep my dresser drawer out of this cause if it hadn't been for a combination of the officiating, lady luck and some smoke and mirrors I'd have those t-shirts :D .

[Haunted]

Different note: anyone figure out why the Devil Rays pitched to Manny with 2 outs and 1st base open? Furthermore, why was the right fielder playing so shallow? Had he been even close to normal depth, it would have been a routine line drive out.

Stupid managing.

[JohnB]

Different note: anyone figure out why the Devil Rays pitched to Manny with 2 outs and 1st base open? Furthermore, why was the right fielder playing so shallow? Had he been even close to normal depth, it would have been a routine line drive out.

Stupid managing.

TB is going to miss Piniella, the managing went beyond pathetic.

[BCeagle]

We all know this is early in the season and it's nice seeing the Yanks in last place. Fortunately they have a tough early schedule and the Red Sox have been playing lesser competition though not necessarily easy wins. They have to take advantage of this schedule and hopefully they can hold their own against the tougher teams like the Blue Jays coming up after the TB series is over.

I don't expect this to last but it's nice having a leg up on the NY for awhile. :)

[Rolevio]

TB is going to miss Piniella, the managing went beyond pathetic.

I have a feeling they are going to do much better without god ol' Lou.

[thecomicbookguy]

Try and keep up w/out getting hostile. I simply stated TB has lousy production and if it had been Toronto or NY those 2 runs Clement gave up would have probably been 20. TBA responded saying TB had a better offense then Toronto. You then went on your lil stint about offense not being TB's problem and how they're offense has improved etc. Sooo I was simply following the logical trail of the discussion which you apparently jumped in mid stream.

And I didn't mention TBA's comments. Honestly, I hadn't even seen that post, which is why I didn't respond to it, or your response that followed. I responded to your initial post, which had nothing to do with TBA's comparisons of TB and Toronto.

[Westfield Eagle]

Different note: anyone figure out why the Devil Rays pitched to Manny with 2 outs and 1st base open? Furthermore, why was the right fielder playing so shallow? Had he been even close to normal depth, it would have been a routine line drive out.

Stupid managing.

Manager had short-term memory on that one. The real problem there was the positioning of Branyan. If he is in good position he makes that catch easily.

[Haunted]

Manager had short-term memory on that one. The real problem there was the positioning of Branyan. If he is in good position he makes that catch easily.
Yes, I just said that. In the post you quoted.


Anyway, I thought pitching to him was a dumb move, and when Remy pointed out how shallow Branyan was, you knew Manny was going to go right field - and he did. He almost didn't get away with it, but drove in 2 runs.