The Official Thread of the 2006 Boston Red Sox

[Haunted]

6-1. Nice start.
Well, they're on pace to win 139 games. :D ;) :cool:

[BC ZamboniGuy Cult]

PENNANT FEVER GRIPS HUB

[Scarlet]

Was Foulke booed at all? I'm just wondering if he's going to start in on the crowd. I hope not. On both cases.

[Westfield Eagle]

Watch me:

Pena's a very young power hitter with Major League experience who is a perfect platoon partner with Trot and a possible replacement.

Arroyo is a versatile, yet mediocre pitcher who had no place on the team.

I'd do that trade 100 times out of 100, it was that much of a no-brainer. Nothing against Bronson, I wish him well, but I'd rather have the 24-year-old with 40-HR potential.

:confused:

Needless to say I disagree with your assessment, but we'll see how it works out. My Dad always taught me there is ALWAYS room on a team for another quality arm.

[BC ZamboniGuy Cult]

:confused:

Needless to say I disagree with your assessment, but we'll see how it works out. My Dad always taught me there is ALWAYS room on a team for another quality arm.

Yeah but if there's a need elsewhere then trading someone you have nowhere to put makes perfect sense. This bullpen's doing fine even with Taveras out.

Pena is a bit of a project but let Papa Jack work with him. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised, and if he disappoints then all we lost was a guy with a 4.59 career ERA.

[BC ZamboniGuy Cult]

Was Foulke booed at all? I'm just wondering if he's going to start in on the crowd. I hope not. On both cases.

It sounds like the home run bounced out of Pena's glove, so most people at the game probably saw that it wasn't really Foulke's fault.

[Westfield Eagle]

Yeah but if there's a need elsewhere then trading someone you have nowhere to put makes perfect sense. This bullpen's doing fine even with Taveras out.

Pena is a bit of a project but let Papa Jack work with him. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised, and if he disappoints then all we lost was a guy with a 4.59 career ERA.

Okay, we'll see what happens.

[kennedy]

Pena is a bit of a project but let Papa Jack work with him. I think we'll be pleasantly surprised, and if he disappoints then all we lost was a guy with a 4.59 career ERA...
...and a monster home run swing.

And now with Coco hurt, and Nixon tweaking something, we're glad we have another outfielder that can swing the bat a little bit.

[thecomicbookguy]

Well, they're on pace to win 139 games. :D ;) :cool:

John Kruk has predicted that the Yankees will win 130 games, but that the Red Sox will take the division, basically predicting that the Sox will win 130 or more.

Just keep that in mind. :p

[Craig P.]

this pena-arroyo trade has been awful. i know it's early, but nobody can defend that trade right now.
Arroyo was never going to be more than a borderline 4th/5th starter for the Sox. He was still somewhat cheap, relative to his performance, so he had more value in trade than he did staying. Peña had and has a lot of potential as a power hitter. I make the trade ten times out of ten regardless of Peña's hijinks in the field or Arroyo's sudden success in the NL (which is unsurprising considering it's a much easier league for pitchers).

[Haunted]

John Kruk has predicted that the Yankees will win 130 games, but that the Red Sox will take the division, basically predicting that the Sox will win 130 or more.

Just keep that in mind. :p
You know what's funny, is that I'm not sure if you're kidding or not. ;)

[Blackout]

We just didnt need Arroyo. For people bashing the Arroyo trade, think about this:

If we dont trade Arroyo, Papelbon is in AAA, and Foulke is closing

(now, I know someone is gonna say 'no way, DiNardo would be in AAA'. Not true. DiNardo is a lefty, plus they dont mind wasting one of his options (since he was rule 5 he had a ton anyways). Papelbon would be a part of the stock of arms that is currently in Pawtcuket).

[Haunted]

We just didnt need Arroyo. For people bashing the Arroyo trade, think about this:

If we dont trade Arroyo, Papelbon is in AAA, and Foulke is closing

(now, I know someone is gonna say 'no way, DiNardo would be in AAA'. Not true. DiNardo is a lefty, plus they dont mind wasting one of his options (since he was rule 5 he had a ton anyways). Papelbon would be a part of the stock of arms that is currently in Pawtcuket).
Furthermore, DiNardo, such as he is, is the only lefty on the big club right now.

[Pal]

If we dont trade Arroyo, Papelbon is in AAA, and Foulke is closing

(now, I know someone is gonna say 'no way, DiNardo would be in AAA'. Not true. DiNardo is a lefty, plus they dont mind wasting one of his options (since he was rule 5 he had a ton anyways). Papelbon would be a part of the stock of arms that is currently in Pawtcuket).

I don't buy that. Even with Arroyo, the team needed a Plan B in case Foulke struggled. There was no way they were going to use Timlin in that spot again, so Papelbon was the only choice. And since Papelbon was going to be pitching out of the bullpen one way or the other, there was no way they'd let him waste away in Pawtucket when he could contribute to the big club.

[Haunted]

I don't buy that. Even with Arroyo, the team needed a Plan B in case Foulke struggled. There was no way they were going to use Timlin in that spot again, so Papelbon was the only choice. And since Papelbon was going to be pitching out of the bullpen one way or the other, there was no way they'd let him waste away in Pawtucket when he could contribute to the big club.
So who, then, goes down? Again, DiNardo is the only lefty they have right now.

[Pal]

Um, it's not like they're using DiNardo now. What difference does it make that he's left-handed if he's only going to be used in mop-up duty?

[Haunted]

Um, it's not like they're using DiNardo now. What difference does it make that he's left-handed if he's only going to be used in mop-up duty?
I don't think that's the idea. There hasn't really been a situation where a lefty has been required. Yet. They've either been getting 7 innings from the starter, or getting blown out early. That won't continue.

[Pal]

I don't think that's the idea. There hasn't really been a situation where a lefty has been required. Yet. They've either been getting 7 innings from the starter, or getting blown out early. That won't continue.

DiNardo has never been particularly more effective vs. lefties than righties. I have a hard time believing he'll be used as a LOOGY. Not to mention that he's never been used in pressure situations.

[Haunted]

DiNardo has never been particularly more effective vs. lefties than righties. I have a hard time believing he'll be used as a LOOGY. Not to mention that he's never been used in pressure situations.
I know what his splits are: mostly even. And they've said many times they won't invest further in OOGY's (see the departure of even a good one in Mike Miers).

To be honest, I wonder if its them clinging to the idea that you need a lefty.

[Pal]

I think it's just a matter of keeping another arm in the pen until Wells comes off the DL. You can't tell me DiNardo would have made the team over Papelbon if Wells' roster spot wasn't available. It doesn't make sense.