D3 USCHO Pre-season All-America Teams

[PrezdeJohnson09]

All-USCHO First Team
F Emily Quizon, Sr., Middlebury
F Erin Kegley, Jr., Wisc-Superior
F Megahn Gillis, Jr., Bowdoin
D Rachel Simon, Jr., Amherst
D Andrea Peterson, Jr., Gustavus Adolphus
G Kate Kogut, Sr., Middlebury

All-USCHO Second Team
F Kelly Crandall, Jr., Gustavus Adolphus
F Jaclyn O'Neil, Sr., Elmira
F Jess Zimmerman, So., Manhattanville
D Kristen Cameron, So., Bowdoin
D Stacey McConnell, Jr., RIT
G Amy Statz, Jr., Wisc-Stevens Point

Honorable Mention
Zoe Baldwin, Sr., Hamilton
Melanie Drake, Sr., St. Thomas
Andrea Ciarletta, Jr., Mass-Boston
Karen Levin, So., Middlebury
Lindsey Weier, Sr., St. Olaf
Cat MacEachern, Sr., Bowdoin

Good lists...though i must say, im quite disappointed to see Jenn Clarke of Plattsburgh not even get an honerable mention. Clarke was the best player on Plattsburgh last season and thats with the Erin Obrien, Carolyn Roys, Liz Gibsons, and Lynn Taylors.

Once Clarke returns from her injury im sure she will start lighting it up left and right.

[brookyone]

No Molly Doyle !! :eek: Nope, can't agree with that omission.

[pal7]

alittle early for this thread i think...a lot of new blood and new coaches out there this year to effect this list as you currently have it.

wait until the second week in Jan to even begin to consider the "who's who". ;)

[polarbear2]

alittle early for this thread i think...a lot of new blood and new coaches out there this year to effect this list as you currently have it.

wait until the second week in Jan to even begin to consider the "who's who". ;)


the list was picked by USCHO...on the Women's page...

[Radar3535]

No Molly Doyle !! :eek: Nope, can't agree with that omission.
Who is Molly Doyle?Why isn't someone asking about Shannon Tarrant -Def Middlebury?

[pal7]

glad to know that uscho is considering the "all americans" so early..makes the girls secure in thier positions, no doubt...but i still say it is TOO EARLY..
It seems to be very hard to dislodge anyone from a position, whether it is a poll positon or the all-american position once they have been "pre-season released" !
USCHO should give the teams, the individuals and the coaches a chance to establish themselves before printing a list like this...just my opinion..doesn't count for much in the grand scheme of things. :cool:

[dave1381]

USCHO should give the teams, the individuals and the coaches a chance to establish themselves before printing a list like this
well, first of all, it's an individual list, so who cares about teams and coaches (though yes, their success is all correlated). second of all, individuals have established themselves throughout their prior histories, which is why a list like this can be informative.

if it's hard to dislodge anyone from a position, that's a criticism of the postseason award selection process, not a valid criticism of releasing a preseason all-american list. A postseason list should be entirely based on the current season, while a preseason all-american list should be based on all past seasons projected into the current season, so it's an entirely different set of information the awards are based on. The existence of one should not influence the other.

[uvmcats]

I agree with pal7 that this is bogus at this time. For instance I've seen most of the Eastern teams play over the past couple of years and there is no one from UMass Boston that would make M-ville, Elmira, Midd, Plattsburgh or any of the top teams first or second lines or top 2 sets of D. I'm not saying there can't be extraordinary players on a non-contender, I just didn't see any that caliber on UMass-Boston.

[dave1381]

I agree with pal7 that this is bogus at this time.
Huh? No one from UMB made the teams.

There was a UMB girl that was an Honorable Mention pick, but that's basically like the same thing as "also receiving votes" in the poll I think. Would you say an entire poll is invalid if you don't agree with one vote in a poll?

[pal7]

my point in mentioning teams and coaches, is that some players are not able to establish themselves because they are on less talented teams and as a result are not able to get as much if any recognition.
If a team has some talented players but they have a "weak or inexperienced" coach..again it is most likely that most players on that team aren't going anywhere with regards to getting any recognition either.
I am not discounting the ablility of the previously mentioned players, it is just that putting them in the forefront when the Nescac just started playing is ridiuculous...at least let some teams get a few games under their belts first, before declaring the names of players who we already know have contributed
and distinguished themselves from last year.
This is a new year, and new players and coaches a like, need time to establish themselves...you can be a great individual player but with a bad coach, you and your team will most likely be only mediocore at best. A mediocore player will rise to their max effort with a great coach, so please don't take the coaches out the equation when looking at the individual players, they are joined at the hip.
If talent doesn't work hard...hard work will beat talent every time!

[PrezdeJohnson09]

#1...this isnt my picked list

#2...That's why its a pre-season poll. LOL, there is no too early to make this. Hockey officially got under way this weekend for all the D3 NESCAC and ECAC East schools so now everyone's hockey season has officially started. That's why you are seeing these types of polls come out right now. It was still the pre-season yesterday for some teams.

#3...These types of things in no way anger me at all. I think they are fun discussion and thats part of the reason why they are put out every year. In the end, i care about who wins the national championships and conference championships and how the Real All-American lists shake out in the end.

[pal7]

I know that this is just for discussion...so don't everyone get so defensive thinking that this list somehow makes me angry..I just don't feel it is the relative that is all...final answer! jeeeeez you guys try and over think this stuff way too much...I said it was just my opinion...can't i have one? :rolleyes:

[polarbear2]

my point in mentioning teams and coaches, is that some players are not able to establish themselves because they are on less talented teams and as a result are not able to get as much if any recognition.
If a team has some talented players but they have a "weak or inexperienced" coach..again it is most likely that most players on that team aren't going anywhere with regards to getting any recognition either.
I am not discounting the ablility of the previously mentioned players, it is just that putting them in the forefront when the Nescac just started playing is ridiuculous...at least let some teams get a few games under their belts first, before declaring the names of players who we already know have contributed
and distinguished themselves from last year.
This is a new year, and new players and coaches a like, need time to establish themselves...you can be a great individual player but with a bad coach, you and your team will most likely be only mediocore at best. A mediocore player will rise to their max effort with a great coach, so please don't take the coaches out the equation when looking at the individual players, they are joined at the hip.
If talent doesn't work hard...hard work will beat talent every time!


great argument for why it is called a pre-season All American team! It's not the real All-American team, that comes out at the end of the season. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If you have players that you think should be on this list, or will rise to the top this season and make the real All-American team speak up...that's why we're here.

[hockeyyfan]

It's like reading the Farmer' s Almanac to get tomorrow's weather......it's been printed for 200+ years but it's better to stick your head outside than to blindly believe it.

[uvmcats]

Huh? No one from UMB made the teams.

There was a UMB girl that was an Honorable Mention pick, but that's basically like the same thing as "also receiving votes" in the poll I think. Would you say an entire poll is invalid if you don't agree with one vote in a poll?

Good point, many of the picks are very deserving based on my past observations. I guess my frustration was that if a UMB player gets "votes" then there couldn't have been a lot of live observation of the field of players in d3 hockey by the people voting. In my mind that makes the basis for the selections a bit suspect.

[dave1381]

I mean, let's think about the value of a preseason all-american teams, what value do they have, and this applies to all sports, not just D-III hockey.

For they fans, they give you some idea of who the top players to watch across the country are going to be, a little more so than just looking at last year's All-American team, though you take it with a grain of salt because in any season a lot of unpredictable things will happen.

For the organization putting out the teams, they allow for some free publicity for the organization, because schools/newspapers will typically mention when players win these awards.

For the schools of the players, it might allow free publicity for the schools if newspapers mention the players winning them. Awards are a very straightforward way to get the generic public interested in a team, "wow, they have a first team preseason all-american, maybe I should go see that player."

So there are lot of benefits to doing these teams, even if they aren't perfect.

[uvmcats]

Three good observations. If we are looking for ways to get names out for folks to watch, I'll get the ball rolling. Check out Marissa Porri and Elizabeth Ross on NECs offense or Jessica Clute or especially newcomer Erin Shepard for NECs defense. As we travel around who are some of the other players in d3 we should be watching for that haven't received much attention beyond campus? Who are the gamers?

[PUCKVET]

Response to RADAR3535:

Molly Doyle is a Gustavus sophomore forward.

She led D-III freshman in scoring last year.

[mnhock]

Molly Doyle is a sophomore from GAC who has 5 conf. pts. in four games against the leagues two weakest teams.

[dumpthepuck]

Molly Doyle is a Gustavus sophomore forward.

She led D-III freshman in scoring last year.



Molly Doyle is a sophomore from GAC who has 5 conf. pts. in four games against the leagues two weakest teams.


Woah, Mnhock, chill for a second. Molly is indeed the person who led DIII freshmen last year. Don't worry, she'll be doing just fine this year. She's got the speed and attack attitude, she looks great on the ice. Let's see where it goes. I predict that she'll have a bunch of points again this year.

Meanwhile, GAC has a bunch of talent stepping up.


;)