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huskyhockey
01-21-2005, 09:44 PM
can anyone explain the NCAA 5-year/10-semester rule??

hockey is a sport whose season spans 2 semesters - anyone know how that would work if a player's 10th semester is a fall semester? (assuming they have only used up 3 years of eligibility?)

OhiohockeyDad
01-22-2005, 06:31 AM
Lost me- I think you mean, the student has been taking classes for 10 semesters, but only played for 3 years (6 semesters)?
The rule basically means you can redshirt 1 year, and play 4, no matter what sport you play. Obviously, you must be enrolled at the school- hence a lot of 5 year athletes are working on their Masters then.
I tried to post a link from the NCAA site, but didn't work somehow.

canuck88
01-22-2005, 10:27 AM
red shirt?

MikeAnderson
01-22-2005, 10:40 AM
I always heard the rule as "you have six years to play four seasons." You can take one year out as an elective redshirt year (you play no games, practice with the team, no travel), and one year as a medical redshirt (play in less than 20% of teams regularly-scheduled games, or two games, whichever is greater).

ARM
01-22-2005, 11:05 AM
If your career extends to a 6th year because of a medical redshirt or a reason like playing on the national team, the NCAA has to okay it. It isn't a 100% given. There are a number of precedents for it though in womens hockey (Ruggiero, Potter, Brodt).

Hux
01-24-2005, 12:11 AM
If your career extends to a 6th year because of a medical redshirt or a reason like playing on the national team, the NCAA has to okay it. It isn't a 100% given. There are a number of precedents for it though in womens hockey (Ruggiero, Potter, Brodt).

You get five to play four. The have a waiver for extenuating circumstances, such as national team play, or getting a real shaft from a second lost season to injury when you have already had a redshirt season.

dave1381
01-24-2005, 12:44 AM
I highly doubt you will see any more six-years in women's hockey. I know of athletes in other sports who have wanted that sixth year after a second year of injuries, and still haven't gotten it. It's not something that's handed out lightly. With Potter, Ruggiero and Brodt, keep in mind that each of them played two seasons of college hockey before it was an NCAA sport, so I don't think those NCAA restrictions were an issue for them.

hockeyyfan
01-24-2005, 07:55 AM
red shirt?

you can practice and attend school (under scholarship) but cannot play in any NCAA games....it goes back to NCAA football originally with the red shirt being a practice jersey color to differentiate, though I don't know why you would differentiate in practice, but they did.

NCAA watcher
01-24-2005, 02:47 PM
you can practice and attend school (under scholarship) but cannot play in any NCAA games....it goes back to NCAA football originally with the red shirt being a practice jersey color to differentiate, though I don't know why you would differentiate in practice, but they did.

The red shirt designated injured players who could not be hit. So if injured, you were "red shirted."

Hux
01-25-2005, 12:53 AM
I highly doubt you will see any more six-years in women's hockey. I know of athletes in other sports who have wanted that sixth year after a second year of injuries, and still haven't gotten it. It's not something that's handed out lightly. With Potter, Ruggiero and Brodt, keep in mind that each of them played two seasons of college hockey before it was an NCAA sport, so I don't think those NCAA restrictions were an issue for them.

Women's college hockey has been a NCAA sport, subject to all the rules etc. since at least the early '80's, and as such, those players were subject to the rules governing NCAA athletics and student-athletes.

dave1381
01-25-2005, 07:24 AM
Women's college hockey has been a NCAA sport, subject to all the rules etc. since at least the early '80's, and as such, those players were subject to the rules governing NCAA athletics and student-athletes.
Well, the championship was not sponsored by the NCAA until 2001. But you're saying it was still considered an "NCAA sport" subject to NCAA rules prior to that when the NCAA gave it the "emerging sport designation"? Are women's squash and rugby, also emerging sports, also subject to NCAA rules?

I all noticed the other day that the women's hockey NCAA record book only goes back to statistics beginning with 2000-01, the year of the first NCAA championship.

This is just one nuance of history I've never verified.

ARM
01-25-2005, 09:26 AM
I think Hux is correct. Prior to the NCAA sponsoring a tourney, they still oversaw the eligibility of scholar/athletes. (In addition to the the institution, ECAC, WCHA, Big Ten, Ivy League, or whoever else thought they needed a say.)