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queeneliza1321
01-21-2005, 04:34 PM
Hey does anyone know what happened to gretchen norby and ashley andrews? they are no longer listed on the roster and were regulars in the line-up
queeneliza1321
01-21-2005, 04:56 PM
i think they left because of loserberg..because come on lets get serious who gets swept by mankato, and almost gets swept by bemidji, the huskies have a lot of talent but they need a better coach who can actually coach them into a group
huskyhockey2000
01-25-2005, 11:55 PM
I do agree that SCSU needs someone who can coach. Some of his players have even said that he needs to learn how to teach them what he wants them to do. He has a ton of knowledge, but just can't seem to relay to his players. This is coming from 2 members of the women's team. I will leave them anonymous, however. I think that they will get better as time goes by. They are INCREDIBLY young this year.
imafan
01-26-2005, 11:27 AM
Husky
I think you hit the nail on the head! They are extremely young, which means they are going to have growing pains and lose some close battles because they haven't found that way to win yet. The coach can't instruct his players on how to finish games, that comes with experience as players. They are very young and are learning to get better. Next year, all of the players in the St Cloud program will be coach Lesteberg's, none left over from the previous coach. Before you all hang him out to dry, let's see how the team develops, they will learn how to finish. It sounds like they have a couple of good recruits signed for next year, give them time for those players to play with what will be experienced players next year!
Bemidji Beaver Fan
01-26-2005, 01:05 PM
Husky
I think you hit the nail on the head! They are extremely young, which means they are going to have growing pains and lose some close battles because they haven't found that way to win yet. The coach can't instruct his players on how to finish games, that comes with experience as players. They are very young and are learning to get better. Next year, all of the players in the St Cloud program will be coach Lesteberg's, none left over from the previous coach. Before you all hang him out to dry, let's see how the team develops, they will learn how to finish. It sounds like they have a couple of good recruits signed for next year, give them time for those players to play with what will be experienced players next year!
I think Lesterberg is doing an allright at SCSU. I've seen them play 4 times this year, and think the talent is there and next year should be a much better year for you guys. The kids are young still, and with another year under their belts, they will probably be middle of the pack in the WCHA, right behind Bemidji Next year...:)
I posted in another room about the direction BSU was going, and a great point was brought up. Who do you get to replace them? Jason was the coach here for a while as many of you may know, and I've heard very few knocks on the guy.
Simle Huskies! Both your programs won't suck next year....:)
Willie Plett
01-26-2005, 01:49 PM
i think they left because of loserberg..because come on lets get serious who gets swept by mankato, and almost gets swept by bemidji, the huskies have a lot of talent but they need a better coach who can actually coach them into a group
From What I heard the only losers here were Ms. Norby and Ms. Andrews. They weren't going to play anyways, because they both became academically ineligable. Sounds like it was their own fault!
Lesteberg knows his stuff. Their problem is they have a bunch of athletes who choose not to work hard on and off the ice. Give the program another year and lets see where they are at.
Bemidji Beaver Fan
01-26-2005, 01:59 PM
From What I heard the only losers here were Ms. Norby and Ms. Andrews. They weren't going to play anyways, because they both became academically ineligable. Sounds like it was their own fault!
Lesteberg knows his stuff. Their problem is they have a bunch of athletes who choose not to work hard on and off the ice. Give the program another year and lets see where they are at.
Right on! As long as they are below the Beavs!
;)
Willie Plett
01-26-2005, 02:36 PM
Hey does anyone know what happened to gretchen norby and ashley andrews? they are no longer listed on the roster and were regulars in the line-up
Interesting profile name (queeneliza1321). Considering Norby wore 13 and Andrews wore 21. But, probabaly just a coincidence!!!
huskyhockey2000
01-26-2005, 03:07 PM
From What I heard the only losers here were Ms. Norby and Ms. Andrews. They weren't going to play anyways, because they both became academically ineligable. Sounds like it was their own fault!
Lesteberg knows his stuff. Their problem is they have a bunch of athletes who choose not to work hard on and off the ice. Give the program another year and lets see where they are at.
Plett - I don't know if you know any of the athletes or have even been to any games, but I think they are working very hard on the ice. You could see it in their faces in the Friday and Saturday games vs. BSU. They looked dog tired (pardon the pun). I thought Jackie Jensen was gonna die. She was working her tail off the whole game and you could see it in her face. (That's just one example.) I've been to practices, so I know that they do work. Lesty just needs to learn how to teach his players.
As for the Beavs - Perrenial bottom feeders for years to come in the WWCHA.
Bemidji Beaver Fan
01-26-2005, 03:47 PM
Plett - I don't know if you know any of the athletes or have even been to any games, but I think they are working very hard on the ice. You could see it in their faces in the Friday and Saturday games vs. BSU. They looked dog tired (pardon the pun). I thought Jackie Jensen was gonna die. She was working her tail off the whole game and you could see it in her face. (That's just one example.) I've been to practices, so I know that they do work. Lesty just needs to learn how to teach his players.
As for the Beavs - Perrenial bottom feeders for years to come in the WWCHA.
Didn't want to have to come to this, but I've been to more SCSU Woman's Games than you have this year! What do you know about Woman's Hockey, at ANY level?
Sidenote: I LIVE IN BEMIDJI!
Willie Plett
01-26-2005, 04:20 PM
Didn't want to have to come to this, but I've been to more SCSU Woman's Games than you have this year! What do you know about Woman's Hockey, at ANY level?
Sidenote: I LIVE IN BEMIDJI!
BSU FAN-
Thank You!!!
Husky Hockey2000-
Not to take anything away from the Beavers, but the Huskies played awful against BSU, very reminiscent of 75% of the games they've played this season. AWFUL!!! The only game that I can say that they have played to their potential was that first game against St. Lawrence in which they won. There is no reason they can't play to that level every weekend.
Working hard has nothing to do with the facial expressions that an athlete is showing on the ice. Anyone can sell that face. I think thats more of a look of being out of shape, not necessarily working hard!
The Beavers are a hard working team! The Huskies seem to show up when they feel like it!
Fan-tastic
01-26-2005, 04:22 PM
Lesterburg has not been successful . He made Kobi the queen and paid little attention to other players . He has done worse record wise that K. Brodt !!! If you want to see how bad it has been look at the gradaution record. The coaches John and Dave have made a career of rewarding and finding players who have no chance to stay with the program. The players they find and fawn over have failed them on the ice . None of these three men have a clue how to coach women. How come Morris has paid so little attention to these goofballs.
Rabid Husky
01-26-2005, 04:50 PM
Didn't want to have to come to this, but I've been to more SCSU Woman's Games than you have this year! What do you know about Woman's Hockey, at ANY level?
Sidenote: I LIVE IN BEMIDJI!
Once again trying to say you know more than you do...give it up will ya?
imafan
01-26-2005, 05:01 PM
Fan-Tastic
before you start ripping on a coaching staff, make sure you know who is on the staff. You put blame on John and David for recruiting people who can not stay in school. David and Jeff are the assistants, and are doing a great job. I believe baby-sitting does not take palce at the college level and if student athletes can't maintain the bare-minimum that the NCAA sets up as it's guidelines, that is a direct reflection on the student-athlete and not the coaching staff. Those guidelines areridiculously low, and anyone who wants to be in college and participate in sports, shoulkd have no problem making the standards, but that is on the shoulders of the student-athlete.
fan for life
01-26-2005, 07:00 PM
imafan retaining academic eleigibility is not that easy for some players. First year students do not have the info regarding which courses or profs support or fit well with an athletes schedule. Whether or not you accept what I say I am not speaking of just one school or not very academic students. Some teams have VERY demanding schedules, training, on ice and travel and all schools have some very demanding courses and inflexible profs. Schedule conflicts alone can affect attendence at class which in some schools can result in automatic fail type marks. I believe your attitude doesn't reflect the level of difficulty many student athletes experience at college. I don't know the specific students discussed in this thread. If I did know them I couldn't or wouldn't say anything more specific anyways.
imafan
01-26-2005, 10:01 PM
Fan
Great post, it also backs what I am saying where it is NOT the coaches fault if a player becomes academically ineligible. There are too many things going on and you can not put blame on a coach because a student does not do well in school.
huskyhockey2000
01-26-2005, 10:12 PM
Fan
Great post, it also backs what I am saying where it is NOT the coaches fault if a player becomes academically ineligible. There are too many things going on and you can not put blame on a coach because a student does not do well in school.
I absolutely agree. When you get to this level you are considered an adult and you need to be responsible for your schedule and schooling. You need to study for your classes and be prepared for your classes. Yes, I'm sure that it is difficult, but how many of these athletes are in really tough majors? Some, but not many. Communications and marketing are two of the easier majors, which is what a lot of athletes choose. Most profs are flexible enough that if you have to miss a class for a travel day, they will let you. There are not many that will not give you a break. You may have to read an article and type up a summary, but that's not too hard. The whole point is, we're adults and we need to act like it. The coaches should not have to babysit.
fan for life
01-27-2005, 03:26 AM
Like inflexible profs who can make a semester stressful and near impossible, coaches inflexibility or a single team focus can drive players away from the team or challenge the best study intentions. Coaches need to be flexible, a team is made of individuals who have individual needs that may need a coach's attention on occassion. These are student-athletes, yes, even the Div I players.
It may not be the coach but the athletic program can make academic success difficult eg. scheduling daily practises at 2pm vs. 4pm or 7pm can make a huge difference. IMO the students' success should be the goal of the university coach and the athletic program, team success will follow.
To be clear I believe it is partially a coach's responsibility to recruit players suited to the academic demands of their institution. Without babysitting, a coach should ensure that someone tracks team members and provides support so that academic problems can be avoided before ineligibility arises.
My impression is that the demands on a college athlete who plays ice hockey are a challenge to many if not all first year students. Depending on how the first year is dealt with the next years may be more manageable. My advice to incoming freshman is to prepare to work harder than you have in the past and not to be discouraged because it is difficult for almost everyone. My hat is off to all the young women who compete on college hockey teams.
taz91
01-27-2005, 10:18 AM
Fan, excellent take on that. I worked for the men's team when I was going to school and I don't think we ever had a problem with profs. The only time something would cause a problem was if a test was scheduled. The coach also did an excellent job of tracking academics. He would have the players get evealuations from coaches every other week. As soon as they got a bad eval they would sit until they got a good one again.
Willie Plett
01-27-2005, 03:15 PM
Like inflexible profs who can make a semester stressful and near impossible, coaches inflexibility or a single team focus can drive players away from the team or challenge the best study intentions. Coaches need to be flexible, a team is made of individuals who have individual needs that may need a coach's attention on occassion. These are student-athletes, yes, even the Div I players.
It may not be the coach but the athletic program can make academic success difficult eg. scheduling daily practises at 2pm vs. 4pm or 7pm can make a huge difference. IMO the students' success should be the goal of the university coach and the athletic program, team success will follow.
To be clear I believe it is partially a coach's responsibility to recruit players suited to the academic demands of their institution. Without babysitting, a coach should ensure that someone tracks team members and provides support so that academic problems can be avoided before ineligibility arises.
My impression is that the demands on a college athlete who plays ice hockey are a challenge to many if not all first year students. Depending on how the first year is dealt with the next years may be more manageable. My advice to incoming freshman is to prepare to work harder than you have in the past and not to be discouraged because it is difficult for almost everyone. My hat is off to all the young women who compete on college hockey teams.
These athletes had plenty of time for homework, hockey and exta-curricullar activities. Coach Lesteberg gives them plenty of time from what I hear and have seen. They have many resources on SCSU's campus.
If you can't pull off a 2.0 as a student athlete at SCSU, you have some serious time management problems.
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