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phil_dupree
09-16-2004, 11:42 AM
If MN votes for Bush, I'm never moving back to MN. :D
Well, then you and Alec Baldwin can move to Eurpoe. Baldwin threatened to move if Bush won in 2000. The American people said "sounds good to me" and elected Bush. Baldwin failed to put his money where is mouth lived and continued living in America and driving SUV's. My guess is that you'll do the same.
Rimbaud
09-16-2004, 11:48 AM
Well, then you and Alec Baldwin can move to Eurpoe. Baldwin threatened to move if Bush won in 2000. The American people said "sounds good to me" and elected Bush. Baldwin failed to put his money where is mouth lived and continued living in America and driving SUV's. My guess is that you'll do the same.
I have no plans to move back to MN anyways. So I'm pretty sure I can keep up my end of the bargain. Plus I never said I couldn't visit. I have faith in my home state that they'll keep the streak of voting Democratic for Pres. elections alive. It's the longest one in the nation.
Well, then you and Alec Baldwin can move to Eurpoe. Baldwin threatened to move if Bush won in 2000. The American people said "sounds good to me" and elected Bush. Baldwin failed to put his money where is mouth lived and continued living in America and driving SUV's. My guess is that you'll do the same.As Kepler (thread starter) requested, please keep the smack talk to the other threads designed for such.
For those concerned about some Bush up-tick in the last week, I'm surprised that no one here has mentioned the obvious Bush-bounce impact of the 9/11 anniversary.
Regardless of individual opinions of whether or not it should happen, I think it's reasonable to project a small Bush bounce, esp. in places like NY and NJ.
It's far enough away from the election that, like DNC/RNC bounces, this will dissipate and other issues will come up between now and then.
Red Cloud
09-16-2004, 02:03 PM
It's far enough away from the election that, like DNC/RNC bounces, this will dissipate and other issues will come up between now and then. What DNC bounce? :)
one_to7
09-16-2004, 02:10 PM
What DNC bounce? :)
Hey, well, at least the numbers didn't go down. :p
Welcome back by the way! :)
Major Richard Sharpe
09-16-2004, 03:25 PM
Major Gomer Pyle,
I'm more like D-Day actually. I'm guessing you're a dead ringer for Neidermeyer. :eek:
Your polls seem to be conducted using yourself and three friends as the sample. No offense, but that's not a statistically signficant sample, especially when the combined IQ of the subjects doesn't even equal room temperature. :D
Kepler,
Too many Dems (not you, but in general) seem to worry that not every state that was thought to be in play remains so. Personally I look at it like this - of the Gore states, Bush is making a seriously play really in Wisconsin. Not bad IMO, as polls today showed Kerry stronger in Michigan and Minnesota.
Now look at Bush states that Kerry's currently (as in this week) making a play for: Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Florida, Colorado. I have no idea where W. Virginia stands, so I'll leave that out. Yeah, I'd like to see Arizona closer no doubt. I never had high hopes for Missouri. Regardless, although as you say he's got a shorter playing field, he's still playing on Bush's turf. Of course, he needs to tighten up his game a little bit....
Actually, I'm guessing your like Marmalard and we all know what happened to him. Actually, my assertions are all backed up by Zogby, Frank Luntz and the WSJ. Where are your projections coming from.
I would suggest you read today's SF Chronicle, they have an interesting article about Kerry being doomed and how he and Edwards have gotten absolutely no traction on the campaign trail. Face it Doggie, it's all over.
Rover
09-16-2004, 03:32 PM
Actually, I'm guessing your like Marmalard and we all know what happened to him. Actually, my assertions are all backed up by Zogby, Frank Luntz and the WSJ. Where are your projections coming from.
I would suggest you read today's SF Chronicle, they have an interesting article about Kerry being doomed and how he and Edwards have gotten absolutely no traction on the campaign trail. Face it Doggie, it's all over.
Gomer,
I came out here to post this by itself, but since you're here you can have the honor...
http://americanresearchgroup.com/index.shtml
Most doomed candidates aren't leading in polls, but hey, don't let that discourage you... :cool:
BTW - were you referring to this Wall Street Journal?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB109526872487418642,00.html?mod=todays%5Ffree% 5Ffeature
:p
Major Richard Sharpe
09-16-2004, 03:42 PM
Gomer,
I came out here to post this by itself, but since you're here you can have the honor...
http://americanresearchgroup.com/index.shtml
Most doomed candidates aren't leading in polls, but hey, don't let that discourage you... :cool:
BTW - were you referring to this Wall Street Journal?
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/0,,SB109526872487418642,00.html?mod=todays%5Ffree% 5Ffeature
:p
Doggie
No Harris isn't the WSJ. Watch the news at night and you might have a better idea as to the national trends. And according to NPR NJ is now in play. Bad bad news for the French traitor and paid agent of the PDR of Vietnam.
Rover
09-16-2004, 03:52 PM
Doggie
No Harris isn't the WSJ. Watch the news at night and you might have a better idea as to the national trends. And according to NPR NJ is now in play. Bad bad news for the French traitor and paid agent of the PDR of Vietnam.
Yeah, you just make sure to drink some Red Bull and stay up late on election night waiting for the networks to call Jersey for Bush. :D
Looks like cocaine George is back even with heroic Patriot John Kerry. That so-called "bounce" sure didn't last long, did it?
Red Cloud
09-16-2004, 03:57 PM
Looks like cocaine George is back even with heroic Patriot John Kerry. Wow. WOW. :eek:
I suppose the old caveat is true... in an insane world, the sane man is insane.
Rover
09-16-2004, 04:05 PM
Wow. WOW. :eek:
I suppose the old caveat is true... in an insane world, the sane man is insane.
Doggie
Bad bad news for the French traitor and paid agent of the PDR of Vietnam.
Hmmm....pretty selective with your criticism there Tom.... :eek:
Red Cloud
09-16-2004, 04:07 PM
Hmmm....pretty selective with your criticism there Tom.... :eek:
I don't tend to see things that people on my ignore list say... unless others post their stupidity. Even then I usually, uh, ignore it.
jtwcornell91
09-16-2004, 05:51 PM
Um, guys, remember the part about taking the flame war elsewhere?
Red Cloud
09-16-2004, 05:54 PM
Um, guys, remember the part about taking the flame war elsewhere? But there's bi-partisan support for the "Major Richard Sharpe is a *******" notion! :)
Edit: Wow. Can't say j@ckb@g anymore. What is this board coming to.
bronconick
09-16-2004, 06:26 PM
But there's bi-partisan support for the "Major Richard Sharpe is a *******" notion! :)
Edit: Wow. Can't say j@ckb@g anymore. What is this board coming to.
Think of the children, Red. Think of the children. :D
Major Richard Sharpe
09-17-2004, 01:21 PM
But there's bi-partisan support for the "Major Richard Sharpe is a *******" notion! :)
Edit: Wow. Can't say j@ckb@g anymore. What is this board coming to.
Brilliant commentary from a grad from the Apex Tech School in Downtown Troy. I think Joe Juneau said it best when he said "I know I'm going to heaven because I've done my time in Troy."
U2Bad1
09-17-2004, 01:30 PM
Looks like cocaine George is back even with heroic Patriot John Kerry. That so-called "bounce" sure didn't last long, did it?
Not all agree,
New Gallop Poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=13066)
Major Richard Sharpe
09-17-2004, 01:35 PM
Not all agree,
New Gallop Poll (http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=13066)
Right on, the Puppy is only capable of reading the news that is good for his candidate while ignoring a national trend that is so obvious even the liberal media has picked up on it. It's lights out for Kerry.
Rover
09-17-2004, 01:58 PM
You know, sometimes you make to easy Gomer...
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=224
Lets see, three polls have them even...one's out in left field. Yeah....what should people believe...
Bottom line is, if you're a conservative you've gotta be worried right now. Bush's numbers are starting to go the wrong way. Kerry is doing what he needs to do, which is sharpening his focus. Now if Bush could hold a GOP convention every two weeks, he'd be okay. Problem is, he can't launch any more big, splashy events to distract from the issues facing the country.
I suspect the most probable outcome now is for Bush's numbers to keep slipping a little and Kerry's to rebound so electorally he has a small advantage by the end of the month. This leads to the debates, where even a draw benefits Kerry as a serious alternative who gains stature by being on the same stage as the incumbent. Unless both Iraq and the economy experience some noticeable gains, or Kerry royally screws up in the debates, Bush's job for the next 6-7 weeks only gets harder....
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