My Company Sucks

[eaglehockeyrules]

Yeah, this BU alum learned that sarcasm was lost on BC alums. Great lesson. :rolleyes:

oh no, it was not lost, just ignored. come on we all know BU alums are frustrated and humorless. ;)

[Rhett]

oh no, it was not lost, just ignored. come on we all know BU alums are frustrated and humorless. ;)

Nice save... almost.

[AdrianneP]

Unemployment is not the same as severance. Severance is basically a paycheck that you get after being laid off, and it is something that you (or the union, etc.) negotatiate with your employer.

Before or after you're fired?
I'm thinking bringing up severance pay at either point is going to go over badly.

Adrianne

[whoissteve?]

if you are fired, you usually do not get a severance package. if you are laid off and your company feels generous, you might get one. its usually just a "thanks for working for us" right before they slam the door on your ***.

[KevinNU7]

What makes you think you'd get a severance package? Does your employer have to give you one? I highly doubt my employer would give me any kind of severance package. I'd be happy with a pink slip, something to show the Labor Department that I was once employed and fired so I could at least collect unemployment ... Or is unemployment checks the same as a severance package???

Adrianne
I do not know if you are salary or hourly, but I think you are hourly based on what I have heard you do for work in various threads (not an insult). Salary employees often have grounds for a severance written into their "contracts" as part of the standard package given to all salary employees. At Gillette any salary employee laidoff during a merger given an automatic serverance package. Many (and I mean thousands) are only staying with Gillette right now so that they can get their severance if/when they are laid off. If Gillette did not offer/have a serverance program then thousands would probably leave the company immediately and Gillette as a company would be in disarry.

[Happy]

If I get laid off, I get a severance package. Why? because the company knows darn well that if it starts laying off union workers at the plant I work at, we would sabotage the place, and there goes a billion dollar investment. They are really stupid, but they do understand fear. They fire nonunion guys on trumped up crap all the time, but they know what happens when they screw with the union.

[MikeAnderson]

if you are fired, you usually do not get a severance package. if you are laid off and your company feels generous, you might get one. its usually just a "thanks for working for us" right before they slam the door on your ***.
Also, consider that most any employee has dirt on a firm, and a severance package can serve as hush money, as well.

What's the number, some 3/4 of all BSA claims are from disgruntled ex-employees?

[Hopkinja]

Severance packages usually are part of group layoffs, or early retirement offers. An individual getting whacked often doesn't get severance.

In many cases severance packages come with terms, such as you can't work for the competiton for X months. That's ostensibly to keep "trade secrets" secret. You get fired, you can take a job with whomever you want the next day.

[AdrianneP]

Severance packages usually are part of group layoffs, or early retirement offers. An individual getting whacked often doesn't get severance.

Yeah ... That's kind of what I thought. Like, if you're fired you can't seriously believe you're going to get a severance package.

Boss: "You're fired!"
You (the idiot): "Let's talk severance package."
Boss: "Get out of my office!"

Adrianne

[broomball52]

Couple guys that got let go from my company last year got 1 week severance for every year of service. One guy got 20 weeks pay. The only catch (that we, the masses) knew of was that they actually had to stay on for 2 to 4 weeks after they told they were being cut so that they could transition projects.

[dropthatpuck]

If I get laid off, I get a severance package. Why? because the company knows darn well that if it starts laying off union workers at the plant I work at, we would sabotage the place, and there goes a billion dollar investment. They are really stupid, but they do understand fear. They fire nonunion guys on trumped up crap all the time, but they know what happens when they screw with the union.


Sure. This works great until they open a plant in a non-union State or another country and move the equipment out overnight. Then they won't care what the hell you do with the place.

...and the reason you get a severance package is because of your CBA, not because of fear.

Union arrogance is partly to blame for declining membership numbers each year.

[K7776S2001]

If I get laid off, I get a severance package. Why? because the company knows darn well that if it starts laying off union workers at the plant I work at, we would sabotage the place, and there goes a billion dollar investment. They are really stupid, but they do understand fear. They fire nonunion guys on trumped up crap all the time, but they know what happens when they screw with the union.


I think I'd fire you right now for saying you would sabotage my business if I ever decided I didn't need you. ;)

[MikeAnderson]

In many cases severance packages come with terms, such as you can't work for the competiton for X months. That's ostensibly to keep "trade secrets" secret. You get fired, you can take a job with whomever you want the next day.
Not always completely true.

Our direct competition requires all new hires to sign a non-compete contract as a contingency of employment preventing you from working for any other media outlet in a 200-mile radius for 18 months following the termination of employment for any reason.

[AdrianneP]

Not always completely true.

Our direct competition requires all new hires to sign a non-compete contract as a contingency of employment preventing you from working for any other media outlet in a 200-mile radius for 18 months following the termination of employment for any reason.

That happened here to a newscaster. She took it to court and won.

Adrianne

[MikeAnderson]

That happened here to a newscaster. She took it to court and won.
And she probably won it on the basis of "being prevented from making a living" which is hogwash. She can move or she can do something else.

We ran into the same situation with a potential hire and lost out (more because we were unwilling to hire a lawyer, but struggling small businesses often don't have room in their budgets for silly things like lawyers).

[AdrianneP]

And she probably won it on the basis of "being prevented from making a living" which is hogwash. She can move or she can do something else.

Well she didn't want to move because she liked/s the area and ... What else could she have done, exactly? WalMart greeter?

Adrianne

[GoRITTigers]

That happened here to a newscaster. She took it to court and won.

Adrianne

It also happened with another newscaster in the area (John Gray) who jumped from WNYT to WXXA. WNYT invoked their non-compete clause and kept him off the air, until a settlement was reached (read: WXXA paid WNYT some $$$).

[AdrianneP]

It also happened with another newscaster in the area (John Gray) who jumped from WNYT to WXXA. WNYT invoked their non-compete clause and kept him off the air, until a settlement was reached (read: WXXA paid WNYT some $$$).

He looks better on WXXA anyhow. :p

Adrianne

[broomball52]

And she probably won it on the basis of "being prevented from making a living" which is hogwash. She can move or she can do something else.


I've got no problems with the no compete clause. But if a company lays you off (or fires you) and you cannot get a job in your field in your area. That's hogwash.

Ok you are laid and you now not allowed work in the field you are trained and experienced in for 15 years or earn a salary comparable to what you were making and to support the standard of living that you are acoustom without selling your house and moving your kids to a new school, Not to mention that your wife would have to get a new job as well....hmmm.

[NUJerseyJohn]

I've got no problems with the no compete clause. But if a company lays you off (or fires you) and you cannot get a job in your field in your area. That's hogwash.

Ok you are laid and you now not allowed work in the field you are trained and experienced in for 15 years or earn a salary comparable to what you were making and to support the standard of living that you are acoustom without selling your house and moving your kids to a new school, Not to mention that your wife would have to get a new job as well....hmmm.
Yeah, but at least I got laid. :p

I agree with you - if you get fired then you should be able to get a job anywhere.