National Semi-final: Minnesota-Duluth vs. Denver

[IanAtKDR]

Originally posted by UNHsince1969
Not going to happen.

Reverse woofing doesn't work. ;)

[siouxinminny]

Originally posted by kashmunnie73
....can a player follow a loose puck into crease....the puck was on goalie's chest...and dropped down to UMD players thigh and went in...the way I saw re-play. So what was the offense...being in the crease at all?...in crease after a loose puck? thx, kash

The only plausible explanation is that the player - without help from the DU players - entered the crease on his own momentum and caused the puck to cross the goal line while it was in possession of the goalie. If he had been pushed, shoved or forced in to the crease, the goal would have counted. FYI - a player can follow the puck in to the crease but he can not precede the puck in to the crease.

Tough call but no replays I saw showed the DU boys pushing the UMD lad in to the crease. Probably a good call.

[JF_Gophers]

2004 NCAA Ice Hockey Rules:
Source (p. 62): http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/2004/2004_ice_hockey_rules.pdf

GOALS AND ASSISTS
Section 18

c. A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:

....

(13) If the puck is between the goalkeeper’s pads or lodged in the
equipment and is carried over the goal line by an opponent pushing the goalkeeper into the cage;

[JohnN]

Originally posted by kashmunnie73
....can a player follow a loose puck into crease....the puck was on goalie's chest...and dropped down to UMD players thigh and went in...the way I saw re-play. So what was the offense...being in the crease at all?...in crease after a loose puck? thx, kash


I'll be interested in hearing the official reason the goal was disallowed. I don't think Hache blew the whistle and nothing in the replay seemed to suggest it shouldn't have been a goal.



Anyway, in my mind the biggest play in the game was when Burkhoel made a nice stop on Lessard on a breakaway in the second period. If Lessard had buried the hat trick, it would have made it 4-1 and the result might have been a little different.

[napeterson]

who thinks who will win it all???

Im sayin DU is stayin with the momentum and pulls it off...

oh ya, and SCSU will suck AGAIN next year

[JohnN]

Originally posted by JF_Gophers

(13) If the puck is between the goalkeeper’s pads or lodged in the
equipment and is carried over the goal line by an opponent pushing the goalkeeper into the cage;


This wasn't the case on this play. Burkhoel never had control. When the puck crossed the goal line, no player was touching it. It went to the goalie's right.

[JF_Gophers]

Originally posted by JohnN
This wasn't the case on this play. Burkhoel never had control. When the puck crossed the goal line, no player was touching it. It went to the goalies right. It is the case if the Ref loses sight of the puck. Hence the waving off of the goal.

The UMD player sliding into Berkhoel blocked Hache, and he made the call right away. That will happen 99 times out of 100.

[JohnN]

Originally posted by JF_Gophers
It is the case if the Ref loses sight of the puck. Hence the waving off of the goal.


Sure. But the replay official saw what actually happened. Absent a whistle, which I doubt was blown because of the timing, the replay official had the opportunity to correct the call.

[kashmunnie73]

....it would seem the key issue is...did the goalie have possession of puck....I'm not sure he ever had his glove(s) on it( you'd have to se the earliest part of replay)....it seemed to be hanging on his chest...as UMD player legally follows "a loose"puck into crease. Puck bounced off UMD thigh and went into net to the left side as goalie got pushed into middle of the net...I think the puck preceeded the golaie into net..and definitely by a different path. It wasn't intentionally kicked...and never seemed controlled by goalie...so who cares if UMD guy was pushed or intentionally proceeded into net? Anybody?......tell Adam Wogon...I'm nonplussed by the call. k

[pgrass01]

Originally posted by siouxinminny
Tough call but no replays I saw showed the DU boys pushing the UMD lad in to the crease. Probably a good call.

Yeah, they weren't pushing him, they were pulling him. Most people don't crash the net 'on purpose' with their feet off the ground. It was a joke that no penalty was called regardless. Either way, Berkhoel never had the puck and it when into the net. I can understand the call being missed at ice level, not in the booth. Strange they didn't fix that call in the booth. Either way, Denver kicked UMD's butt in the last two periods....

[kashmunnie73]

.....the ref still has to BLOW the whistle....to stop play if he can no longer see the puck. He has to get the whistle to his mouth and blow it!!! The ONLY reasonable explanation might be goalie had his glove(s) on puck on his chest....but I don't remember seeing that at beginning of re-play. So what is the explanation? kash

[bbutzin]

Well, if DU can win it all now, it will only confirm what we all have suspected for ages... the WCHA is the one, true college hockey league :)

anyways... good job to Denver. gold pan will be CC's again next year!!!

[brianvf]

Congrats to Denver!

[WCHA_Rulez]

Good luck to Denver... we're expecting to see another WCHA team take it all again this year! :cool:

[state of hockey]

Kind of makes me wonder what CC could have done had they gotten the nod.

My first instincts say not much, for this Denver team looks totally different. A ton of heart behind that bench.