UMD chancellor target of hockey complaint

[COACH TO 3]

Women's Hockey: " Martin is accused of spraying water on an Ohio State coach from her front row seat at the DECC"

Reported by Christa Lawler, News Tribune Staff Writer.

Ohio State has filed a complaint with the WCHA .

According to Lawler, a group of eight people saw the incidence and all eight said it appeared to be deliberate. Another university employee sitting near the scene said Martin appeared to do it intentionally.

The first period ended with a scuffle in front of the Ohio State bench. Apparently Martin was upset at the Ohio State coaches.

Martin sits directly behind the opposing players bench during the game, according to Lawler.

According to a second witness, martin is always yelling at other coaches. She never gets upset untill (UMD) is behind.

UMD athletic director Bob Nielson has Apologized to the Ohio State coaches:(

[ARM]

Sounds like she'd fit right in at Texas Tech.

[dave1381]

Wow, I'm glad women's hockey has reached the stage of its development where University Chancellors are willing to make fools of themselves over it. How many more years to do we have until women's hockey gets point-shaving scandals and drug abuse and recruiting sex parties all the other wonderful things that come along with big-time college athletics? :rolleyes:
(yeah, I know she's innocent until proven guilty, etc., etc.)

[ARM]

Originally posted by dave1381
How many more years to do we have until women's hockey gets point-shaving scandals ...

You could do some research on that one. Call one of the Vegas sports books and say you want to bet a few thou on the Crimson women to win the beanpot and find out what kind of odds they are giving.

[pgb-ohio]

You know, I'm thinking of making the road trip to Duluth next year. But if I do, I'll be sure to wear hip boots and a couple of raincoats to the arena...

[Bruce Ciskie]

Duluth TV station KDLH reports tonight that no complaint will be filed.

I think I'm among a large group that would love to hear from witnesses of the incident, instead of labeling and judging based on a very one-sided newspaper account.

Just sayin'.

[pgb-ohio]

Obviously we'd all like to have as much information as possible before passing judgement on this matter. Why not let everyone read the article and judge for themselves whether it's one-sided?

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/sports/7908436.htm

Buckeye Fan For Life posted a list of highlights from the piece. The actual article is a good bit longer and includes quotes from Chancellor Martin.

[binnyrus]

For my piece . . . I sit behind and just to the near goal side of the UMD bench. Right where a gal wouldn't have been able to see a thing!!

I do remember the end of the period though as there was an altercation right in front of the OSU bench - a bunch of noise from the fans at that end of the rink lead all of us to believe that OSU'd done something bad . . . . ;)

[taz91]

Considering the article was by a Duluth writer, how can it be considered one-sided?

[pgb-ohio]

taz91's rhetorical question is right on the money. I would add the following observation:

I wondered if I had read Christa Lawler's work before. So I went through my momentos from last year's Frozen Four. Included were the relevant articles from the Duluth News Tribune. Sure enough, Christa Lawler was the lead writer for the tournament coverage.

Lawler's articles were professionally done, and fair to all four teams. She was certainly positive toward the host team. She wasn't a total homer, or anything like that. But she was supportive of the Bulldogs in a way that was appropriate for a member of the local press.

Based on this observation, I find it very difficult to believe that Christa Lawler would write a one-sided article biased against UMD. Bruce, if you expect anyone buy into this argument, you've got some real persuadin' to do.

I love visiting Duluth. But until someone talks me out of it, I'm still bringing the raincoats!

[dave1381]

My only gripe with Lawler has been regarding that scandal from the WCHA tournament last year, she only got Shannon's side of the story in there and really took her for word and ran without contacting the WCHA. Of course that's not entirely her fault because Sara Martin pretty much disappeared as soon as the suspension was announced, but that first article she did on the subject really misrepresented the situation I thought. So given that, I'd never imagine her writing a one-sided article against UMD, and this one clearly isn't - she clearly has both sides of the story in there, which totally contradict each other of course, and there's not a whole lot she can do to sort them out.

[ARM]

Bruce, If you want to pass yourself off as the levelheaded voice of fairness, you might want to change your sig'. Just sayin'.

[Bruce Ciskie]

I would have liked an eyewitness account from someone who thought it was an accident. It's only fair to find one if you're going to use an "anonymous UMD employee" to bring out one side of the story.

I'm not saying it wasn't intentional, because I don't know, but I do know that the account from said anonymous UMD employee seems to describe an accident, and not an intentional act. Read it 20 times and draw the picture in your mind of what happened.

[ARM]

My best guess is that "not much" happened. But it is rare that such a high-ranking representative of a university, not part of the athletic department, conducts themselves in a manner at an athletic event such that the A.D. feels an apology is in order.

[Give me an S, Give me an E]

Originally posted by ARM
My best guess is that "not much" happened. But it is rare that such a high-ranking representative of a university, not part of the athletic department, conducts themselves in a manner at an athletic event such that the A.D. feels an apology is in order.

Unfortunately at UMD this behavior is not rare. I have been to numerous women's games and Martin's actions have been so appauling that my friends and I (all umd students) have actually been embarassed to be associated with her and the university. I know that earlier this year HumRsky wrote a ten things you dont like about the school you are attending and his number one was Martin's actions at UMD women's games.

[Bruce Ciskie]

Originally posted by ARM
My best guess is that "not much" happened. But it is rare that such a high-ranking representative of a university, not part of the athletic department, conducts themselves in a manner at an athletic event such that the A.D. feels an apology is in order.

I find it hilarious that I saw a statement on Channel 3 News last night from Jackie Barto talking about sportsmanship and civility.

It was, after all, just last year that one of her players spit in the face of a UMD player, and as Tom Hansen astutely points out, UMD has never played a series in Columbus without having to send a player to the hospital. :eek:

None of that condones Martin's actions if they were indeed intentional, but it does make this sudden attack of righteousness from tOSU out to be a bit strange. :D

[Collegehockeynut]

Originally posted by Bruce Ciskie
I find it hilarious that I saw a statement on Channel 3 News last night from Jackie Barto talking about sportsmanship and civility.

It was, after all, just last year that one of her players spit in the face of a UMD player, and as Tom Hansen astutely points out, UMD has never played a series in Columbus without having to send a player to the hospital. :eek:

None of that condones Martin's actions if they were indeed intentional, but it does make this sudden attack of righteousness from tOSU out to be a bit strange. :D


After the spitting incident last year, Barto, immediatley after the game apologized and said there was no room in the game for such actions. She then suspended the goaltender indefintetly, which ended up being 3 games. She suspended the goaltender knowing that she would now have to dress Glaser as back-up but who was incapable of playing due to kee injuries. When Lamme did return, she played in only one game where as before the incident, the goaltending duties were split evenly.

So I think she handled the situation very well and as a result do not find her comments regarding sporstmanship out of line or hilarious at all.


What I find a little curious in this whole matter is that it was reported that the Chancellor always sits behind the opposition'ss bench. I would think that you would sit behind you own team's bench to lend support and encouragement. True, as a fan you can sit anywhere, but I also believe as the Chancellor, you are more than just a fan and should be held to a higher degree of acountability.

[brettash]

Originally posted by dave1381
My only gripe with Lawler has been regarding that scandal from the WCHA tournament last year, she only got Shannon's side of the story in there and really took her for word and ran without contacting the WCHA. Of course that's not entirely her fault because Sara Martin pretty much disappeared as soon as the suspension was announced, but that first article she did on the subject really misrepresented the situation I thought. So given that, I'd never imagine her writing a one-sided article against UMD, and this one clearly isn't - she clearly has both sides of the story in there, which totally contradict each other of course, and there's not a whole lot she can do to sort them out.


how do you know lawler didn't contact the WCHA about that situation last year? are you sure the wcha didn't contact her back?

[lucky22]

Brettash-

Im not saying it was right for anyone to do what might have happened but just to let you know she sits right in the middle between both benches and this just happens to be right in the center of the ice.. these seats really very good seats.... befor anyone says something they should know what they are talking about so yes she is sitting there because they are good seats... not because she thinks she needs to yell at the other team

[HumRsky]

Originally posted by lucky22
Brettash-

Im not saying it was right for anyone to do what might have happened but just to let you know she sits right in the middle between both benches and this just happens to be right in the center of the ice.. these seats really very good seats.... befor anyone says something they should know what they are talking about so yes she is sitting there because they are good seats... not because she thinks she needs to yell at the other team
I think she is usually yelling at the refs, but she does huff and puff and stand up with her hands on her hips and generally make a scene. It's rediculous for the highest ranking official at a university to act in this manner. The worst I saw it was during the Harvard series, I can't imagine what all those Harvard alums thought of that. I can guanentee you that Bruiniks (sp?) doesn't act in this manner at any athletic event.