Early Signings

[BLW]

From Bluewater Jr Hawks

www.eteamz.com/bluewaterjuniorhawks/

as noted

Danielle Tangredi - forward to Maine - London, Ontario

as a courtesy awaiting the schools' announcements

Leah Craig - forward - Seaforth, Ontario

Meghan Park - defence - Petrolia, Ontario

[tbhockey17]

Nikki Petrich is going to Northeastern

Petrich comes from Shattuck-St. Mary’s Prep school, nationally recognized for its hockey program. Through 24 games of the 2003-04 season, the forward had 20 goals, 18 assists, 38 points, and 30 penalty minutes. Those numbers were good enough for the team lead in each category, while Petrich helped her team to a 16-4-4 record. As a junior last season, injury limited her to 34 games, but she still produced 24 goals and 30 assists. She played in 72 games as a sophomore, finishing with a line of 38-47-85. Petrich stands at 5’8 1/2, and was born on Dec. 2, 1985.

"A truly gifted goal scorer, Nikki is one of the nation’s most prominent players," said Cox. "Her talents will add a significant dimension to the Husky lineup as we seek to upgrade our offensive production."

[SKATNMIASOV]

Thumbtack

I'm confused are we talking hockey or Academics. let's be honest this is a Hockey site. You can fool yourself into thinking that academics are just as important as goals scored when it comes to College Hockey. Il think that is where these girls want to play next, COLLEGE. Show me a girl from any prep school that had 3.5 and 1100 on the SAT who tallied 4 goals and 7 assists last year and I'll show you a girl who is WISHING SHE PLAYED COLLEGE HOCKEY THIS YEAR. The coaches don't come to games to ask what kind of SAT scores the girls have, they come to see if they can play First and Foremost, then they worry about the grades. Any kid that shows up to school every day and pays attention should be able to meet the NCAA clearing house requirements and get a 900 on the SAT. All the coaches care about is are you a NCAA Qualifier, and can you help their program. If you think Shattuck is a "HockeyMill" I'll more than agree. a D-1 COLLEGE HOCKEY MILL.
If you were a Coach who would you take? the NCAA qualifier scoring 50 plus goals a year and a 4 time lake Placid participant, or the kid from Berkshire with 4 goals and a 1200 SAT. take the kid from Berkshire and you won't be coaching long.

Talk to you in 15 on the SAT website

[thumbtack]

If hockey is a vehicle for getting a high school athlete into college than that's great, but what happens after four years of college? Only 20-odd people play on the national team. There's a future beyond college hockey. So yes, maybe shattuck is a "d-1 hockey mill," but honestly, how well is THE SCHOOL, preparting its students for college, and then more importantly for life. I know that as an employer I would hire the person with the 1300 on her SATs and was an all-academic, then the person with the 900, the scoring record, who majored in basket-weaving. I think schools like shattuck set a bad precedent for a hockey first mentality, which is not applicable after college, and in the case of many schools (such as the ivies), not applicable during college. Just my two cents.

[winsorhockeydad]

Skatn

I think that there are some overall D1 academic requirements that must be met by team averages. So perhaps there may be a place for the kid from Milton with the 1300 SATs but only a handful of goals.

Also, a good coach is concerned about putting together the best TEAM, not necessarily the best collection of individual hockey players.

[SKATNMIASOV]

thumbtack

You switch too fast for me. We went from the best prep schools. to Hockey, to Academia, and now to life experiences. This is my point before you switch topics again. Shattuck is a Prep school. it "Prepares" it's students for College. It prepares those talented players for D-1 College Hockey. Both Academically and in the Sport of Hockey. I'm sorry you can't find a comparable Prep School. One with the credentials and tradition of Shattuck Hockey. So if you are going to defend the E/C prep schools have some ammo. We are talking College Hockey and Prep Schools. No other Prep school puts out the College players like Shattuck.

OH hold on, News just in. another SHATTUCK player signed a NLI with ANOTHER D-1 College. Nikki Petrich SHATTUCK ST> MARY'S PREP SCHOOL with Northeastern. whudathunk.

What they do after college is on them. I would think they would have to be eligible to play. Go to class, stay eligible for 4 years, Finish the 5th year Get a degree. See most College athletes, even the smartest ones require 5 years of College to complete their degree. It is too hard to carry a full load and play sports.Go out like every one else get a job. I would think a degree would out weigh a high school SAT test score. I would hope that 5 years of College life experiences would prepare a student athlete for the life experiences to come.
I know alot of starving people with degrees, making minimum wage. A college degree does not guarantee anything. You need a little luck also. hopefully you can land a good paying job in a city that still has a place where you can still play some hockey. Which is what got you the degree in the first place.
I didn't know that the Olympic or National Team was an employer. I believe they get a little money if they win a medal in the Olympics, but I don't think it is enough to live on for a year. . How much do they pay those 20 women an hour? can anyone apply. Does it matter what your SAT score was? or are only the "BEST HOCKEY PLAYERS" on the team.?
Let me know what we are going to switch to next. I'll be on Northeasterns web site. I'll let you know what her SAT score was if they give that info.
Hey, I'm back. they just said she was one of the best players in the country, gave GOALS, ASSISTS and penalty minutes. However nothing about any grades or Test scores.
WHUDATHUNK.

[topshelf25]

Skatn, you speak as if you have some kind of personal experience in this area. I think you are being a touch cynical to suggest that coaches are interested in only the bare minimum academic requirements. Our daughter is a senior at a D1 school, and our experience has been to the contrary. Few schools provide mandatory study hall or close academic monitoring, so it is essential that the student athletes be academically responsible. Coaches cannot afford to sign academic 'projects' - there is no time to babysit them. As well, ADs pride themselves on the academic success of their teams - there is pressure to bring in athletes that can 'cut it' at school. Of course, the best recruit is the 1200 SAT and 'A list' hockey player - there are more than a few out there - failing that, the best recruits are the kids that can play the game and are mature enough to keep passing grades.

[radicalride50]

Another issue about SSM is they do not even play any of the East Coast Prep Schools. It would be interesting to see them play Berkshire, Cushing and some of the top schools in New England. Never having seen them play, but have seen some of the other schools, I just wonder how they would do.

[starsparents]

My opinion, and again my opinion and experiences, is that no college coach, Division 1 or otherwise, wants athletes that MAY struggle in school, as it becomes a very big time bomb. There are schools, some in each Div 1 and 3 where academic requirements are lax- however, this is not a situation where tremendous amounts of money are coming into the school based on wins and losses of their womens hockey teams, and scandals??? very unlikely, theres not enough at stake- The myth, or bill of goods being sold in certain circles, that if you are a great player your grades won`t matter? thats a myth. Are there exceptions where players get into schools where perhaps their academic profile is below?? Sure but I`m sure they are not as many as one would think

[BLW]

Ashley Riggs signs NLI to Niagara.

http://www.purpleeagles.com/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=1257

[SKATNMIASOV]

Starsparents.

I don't think you get the point of what I am saying. As you should know as the parents of a star, there are NCAA standards that govern which players are "Qualifiers" and which are not. The are not's don't count. Neither do the division 3 schools or the D-1 schools that do not give Athletic scholarships, because "Supposedly" they pay money to the College anyway. I'm talking the D-1 schools putting big money on the line with these kids. Now tell me when is the last time a student on scholarship failed out of the school and lost that scholarship. I personally don't know of any. However to say that all these athletes were great students in school I believe would be false. Did they meet the requirements of the NCAA yes, Did the Coach still want them even though may have been a risk/ yes. Did the coach still offer a substabtial amount of money to this "Risk" yes. and why, because the bottom line is they are still good students, good athletes and kids. They will go to class and stay eligible if they love the game. You don't have to motivate a kid that loves hockey to go to class, the game motivates them.
Again the NCAA decides who can play and who can't. Not the Coach. No Coach can "Sneak" a player into a institution who does not meet the requirements. I've heard of Caoches walking away from good students who were good players, because they were total idiots and off the ice. Good players but bad attitudes. There is much more to a student athlete than the GPA or the SAT. Let's be honest you won't get a scholarship if you can't play the game and you have the best test scores. But if your scores and grades make you a qualifier and you CAN play the game and you are responsible and good person, odds are you will get that scholarship.
Actually my child also plays D-1 college hockey and is an excellent student and would have received an Academic scholarship regardless. her being an exceptional hockey player only made things that much easier.
I just disagree with those that think and say that only the smartest get the scholarships. I'm interested on how many recruiting trips you have gone on with your childs Coach, and how many of the potential student athletes test scores and SAT scores you have seen for your self. I have seen what many would call risks do very well in College. I do not how ever put much weight on what some one "Says" or what I heard. So if you were not there and did not see the scores then how do you know what kind of student a player was in high school, you don't.
Grades always matter, just how much do they matter. the NCAA says that if maintain a 2.1 core GPA and get a 960 on your SAT then you can play D-1 athletics. 2.1 is not very high is it? So where do you think in your Opinion coaches draw the line on what the lowest GPA is they would recruit a student athlete.
2.1 is **** near a D average. The NCAA says if you got that you can play. Who are we to argue with the NCAA. So in your humble opinion what do you think the median GPA is for student athletes that are on scholarship. (I don't count walk on because they are paying and were exceptional students anyway).
There are NO schools where tremendous amounts of money are coming into the program because of the Women's hockey program. I would bet my last dollar that the 3 time National Championship Women's program at Duluth, the program operates at a loss. Every Women's program operates at a Loss. There is no T.V. money involved, No profits to share at the national Championship game. Name one program that has a profit at the end of the year. When only 500 people attend a College game and only hald pay, that is hardly enough to cover to cost of the ice for the week, let alone scholarships, travel, and salaries.
Starparents, when you say " An Academic profile being below" I ask being below what. Your personal obersvations or what you have heard. Surely you don't mean below those NCAA standards. All you have to have is a 2.1 you mean lower than that.
I personally would like the college to list SAT scores and core GPA's. I think that would put an end this myth that only those with great "Academic Profiles" get scholarships.
Any Coach who cares about the athlete makes sure the athlete is going to class and study hall. I believe each student athlete is assigned a counselor to make sure those things are being done, and they meet with the student regularly. That is why you don't see even the less smarter ones flunk out. I wouldn't call it babysitting, I would call it caring about your players as students.
I would propose to you that students at Shattuck are already in the College Scene. Away from home, having to be responsible at an early age playing the highest caliber hockey and having to be on their honor and being responsible for themselves. They for the most part are already at College. The coaches don't have to worry about or baby sit them.
I believe that Shattuck did come out and played in the Cushing tournament in 2001-2, I believe they only lost one game the entire weekend. But if you want to see them ,come to nationals, they are the only prep school there every single year.

[topshelf25]

Skatn, what is the deal?? Let me recap: a) your daughter is on scholarship and is doing well b) your beef is you want to dispel the myth that all players that receive scholarships are good academically ... why?? I'm not seeing the point ...

[Objectivefacts]

Consider this....perhaps an athlete isn't the greatest student but due to hockey pursues a post high school degree, works hard to stay eligible and when all is said and done, after four or five years, is a university/college graduate..if it wasn't for hockey maybe they wouldn't have followed that path. All this to stay, it isn't a bad thing if hockey, or any sport or special interest, pushes a student to continue their education and then is what helps them actually get an education....soemtimes all they need is a chance and the right environment, coaches and programs that make a difference in the life of a student athlete

[mattj711]

I believe that Shattuck did come out and played in the Cushing tournament in 2001-2, I believe they only lost one game the entire weekend. But if you want to see them ,come to nationals, they are the only prep school there every single year.

That's because they are the only prep school that is USA hockey registered and still in season during nationals. Its easy to be the only one that does it when your the only prep school trying to do it.

Culver is also USA hockey registered, but the hockey program is required by the school to wrap up its season before nationals takes place.

I agree with topshelf...I don't understand what you are arguing. You just seem to distort the messages of other posters on this board then argue against something they never said or even implied.

[MICZamboni]

I feel like I am reading a book when I read this thread. geesh

[benchmom]

Easy to slam an institution you know nothing about. Fact: students have to maintain academic standards to remain at Shattuck. Fact: Shattuck students are as well prepared for College as any other students it they apply themselves to their studied in highschool. Fact: Most are better prepared for hockey than anywhere else. Can't beat the ice time, competition and coaching. Experience of a lifetime for my daughter and now she is able to extend that experience to an ivy league team and school!

[dagies]

Originally posted by SKATNMIASOV
Binnyrus-

Speaking of girls from Minnesota, does any one know where Nikki Petrich from Shattuck St. Mary's is headed. I have heard that this is the best girl not only in Minnesota right now
but maybe even the Country. That is the talk anyway. Does anyone even know anything about her?
On another web site they talk as if she is the BOMB. I guess she had a 7 goal 8 assist explosion last weekend in Wisconsin.?


Here's an article on Petrich and Elumba from Cottage Grove who are going to Northeastern

http://www.gonu.com/whockey/2003/news111903.htm

[mattj711]

Who was slamming Shattuck?

[thumbtack]

I guess I'm slamming shattuck. I don't disagree with the fact that shattuck produces some excellent hockey players, but I would argue that it does not have a great academic reputation. In fact, it has a reputation of being a hockey mill.

Benchmom, in a quick scan of ivy rosters, your daughter is the only shattuck grad playing at an ivy. Congrats. In general, I've found that shattuck players often get scholarships (sometimes multiple offers, in fact), but they do not get looked at too heavily by the ivies and other more academically inclined institutions because of shattuck's reputation as a hockey mill.

Just my two cents.

[Bear]

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