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binnyrus
11-18-2003, 06:22 PM
SKATIN - I'm afraid I don't follow the H.S. teams that closely . . . I do watch a few chat areas and her name doesn't seem to come up. I defer to other's more wise on that one . . .

patella33
11-18-2003, 08:02 PM
If they have already played 23 games, they are not really a prep school. Prep schools usually require their students to play a sport a season or do some activity. I do not think that you can compare them to the prep schools in New England who have more emphasis on academics, than on hockey.

mattj711
11-18-2003, 09:45 PM
They are definitely a prep school, just not of the same mold as the new england prep schools.

Underachiever
11-18-2003, 10:11 PM
I think that the curriculum at SSM is just as good as any east coast prep school. I'm sure the Eaves boys, the Parises, Halcisak, Roth, and the list goes on would agree.

justobservin
11-19-2003, 06:41 AM
As reported on the Maine website:

November 14, 2003
Maine Women's Hockey Signs Tangredi to NLI


ORONO, Maine-- University of Maine women's ice hockey coach Rick Filighera announced today that his program has received a National Letter of Intent (NLI) from Danielle Tangredi (London, Ontario/ Bluewater Hawks Intermediate AA).

Tangredi, a 5-10 forward, has played for the London Devilette and Bluewater Hawk organization, in addition to playing the last two seasons for her high school team, the St. Thomas Aquinas Flames. In 2002, the Flames won the Ontario Provincial Championship, and are two-time city champions. Last season, Tangredi was named the most valuable player of the playoffs and was offensive most valuable player for the season.

"Tangredi is a strong, talented forward who has the ability to create offense for our team," said UMaine head coach Rick Filighera. "She has played on winning teams and will bring that attitude to our program."

Tangredi is a two-time provincial bronze medalist with the London Devilettes. Last season, she recorded 43 goals and added 38 assists for 81 points in 60 games as a rookie for the Bluewater Hawks Intermediate "AA" team. Currently, the Hawks are undefeated in league and tournament play and have won three tournament this season.

All National Letter of Intent signings are contingent upon admission to the University of Maine and compliance with all NCAA rules, including registration with the NCAA Clearinghouse.

Collegehockeynut
11-19-2003, 07:26 AM
This is the first signing I have heard of from Ontario and Canada. Will be interested to hear of any more...either signed or verbals.

NEHockey
11-19-2003, 07:32 AM
SSM is not even close the NE preps academically, as the Ivy's have a terrible time with their admissions offices with SSM prospects.

SKATNMIASOV
11-19-2003, 11:22 AM
Patella33

Do you really believe what makes a Prep School or not is based on the number of Hockey games that school plays, or the number of sports a student plays in a year, or what other activities they participate in????.

I think the word "Prep" is shool is short for "College Preparatory School" meaning to prepare one for College. I think if you really look at what Shattuck really is about, then you will find that is exactly what they are.
Shattuck begins it's season on September 1st and ends a week after nationals in April. The school year ends May 25th, not leaving much room for any other sports to participate in. However if you play hockey at Shattuck, then you might not really care about Soccer, basketball, swimming or gymnastics. BUT I guarantee you , if you are a good player when you leave Shattuck, you will be "Prepared for College" Hockey.
Also you should look at the Shattuck players that are on D-1 Men's and Women's rosters. See you have to be a NCAA qualifier to go to College, which means you have to have a core class GPA, and SAT or ACT scores spelled out by NCAA regulations. Which means you have to be a good student to juggle class on the road while playing a 70 game schedule and practicing everyday also serving 30 community service hours per semester. It's like when you are in College and you have games on the road and you are still responsible for your class work, maintain acceptable grades and also give back to the community.
I differ in Opinion than NEHOCKEY also. I don't think you can judge a School by how many IVY League players that have come from that school. There are many different factors that effect where a player goes. Let's be honest, people don't pay to send their kids to a Hockey Power like Shattuck with the hopes of getting the opportunity to Pay for their kids to go to college. They do it to better their chances for a scholarship, meaning "FREE". Like pay a little now for a shot at not paying alot later.
Also I can't think of one player from Shattuck that has flunked out of College. or an IVY league College. Maybe NEHOCKEY can research that one. With all the players that Shattuck puts out every year,they have to have one or two in the IVY's, or did they flunk out already?

mattj711
11-19-2003, 12:41 PM
What NEhusky was saying is the ivies have trouble getting shattuck players accepted into their schools. I have also heard that this has been a problem in the past.

I do agree with you that shattuck is definitely a prep school. However, their academic reputation, while good, is not at the same level as many of the prep schools out east.

SKATNMIASOV
11-19-2003, 02:11 PM
MattJ711

I guess we can say what we have heard all day long, until someone has some definitive stats on how many Shattuck Players have been denied admittance into Ivy's the point is mute. Many of the Ivy's don't even get looked at by Shattuck Players because of the price tag the recruiters drag into the rink with them. let's be honest, why pay when you don't have to. in the end does that make Shattuck any less smarter. I would say not, but it does keep at little more cash in their parents pockets. I think many people get caught up in the prestige of saying Harvard or Princeton. If you are in to prestige that's cool, does it make you a better hockey player? i'm not convinced. i can tell you this though, for a school supposedly not known for it's academia, you sure see alot of Ivy scouts in the stands at Shattuck games. So if they know chances area small of signing a Shattuck player, then why come? I think the Shattuck players have done pretty well with out the Ivy's.
Thank you though for recognizing Shattuck as a Prep School. I guess all of the players Shattuck has put into College and the National Championships Won and players drafted into the NHL would speak for itself as being The Prep School Hockey Power.

I wonder just how for long Sidney Crocby considered Cushing, or Berkshire. I mean being known for their Academics has to have a big impact on where you will make a dent in the hockey World. Well, he wound up at Shattuck, I guess you can add his name to the underachievers list. I'm sure they all feel bad getting those free educations from those second class D-1 Colleges.

mattj711
11-19-2003, 02:41 PM
SKATNMIASOV

A little touchy aren't we. Take three deep breaths then try reading what I actually posted.

I never said Shattuck players couldn't get into an Ivy league school. Heinhuis obvioulsy did. Nor did I say that everyone should go to an Ivy League school.

brookyone
11-19-2003, 03:52 PM
This almost seems off topic now but according to gophersports.com another girl has committed to the Gophers today. Her name is Liz Palkie & although I've heard her name I don't know much about her. She plays for Cloquet/Esko/Carlton & has pretty good stats. Anyone in northern Mn have any info ?

thumbtack
11-19-2003, 03:59 PM
I'll grant you that Shattuck is a prep school, but at the same time just about any private high school might be called a prep school. I think that Shattuck has more of a reputation as a hockey mill than an academic power, as some of the east coast prep schools do. This is not to say that some of the Shattuck hockey players couldn't get in to some of the ivies. I view Shattuck as on par with North American Hockey Academy and National Sports Academy... All schools that are sports oriented rather than academically inclined.

SKATNMIASOV
11-19-2003, 04:39 PM
MattJ711

I don't want you to flatter yourself by thinking any talk about hockey could get my blood pressure up. the attitude from many is that the only Hockey that matters is Ivy Hockey. I tend to disagree with that.
However I do find it funny that THUMBTACK would actually believe that the National Sports Academy and the American Hockey Academy could be even with Shattuck. I think what you were trying to say is that they the same type of Sport Specific school. However I don't think they have the credentials that a Shattuck by any stretch of the imagination..

ARM
11-19-2003, 05:13 PM
brookyone, I've only see her play a couple times. She impressed me as very athletic, a good two-way player. Whenever something favorable happened for her team, she seemed to be in the middle of it. I don't think she will be a big-time scorer, but if you look who the Gophers will be losing this year, they need steady players who can take care of business in their own end as well. Hopefully, it will give them an inside track on signing Cloquet/Esko/Carlton's goalie next year, because she is excellent and her arrival would time out right.

MN. Fan
11-19-2003, 05:27 PM
Liz Palkie is a nice addition to the recruiting class of 04. Great player and great kid.

All four of the girls that the Gophers signed have excellent reputations on and off the ice.

brookyone
11-19-2003, 05:30 PM
Hey ARM, I hope your right about the inside track on Cloquet/Esko/Carlton goalie...I remember the title game...she impressed the SHI- out of me too...stood right on her ear the entire game...can't remember her name tho. Thank's for the info on Palkie. Her bio mentions she's an outstanding athlete.

thumbtack
11-19-2003, 06:28 PM
"However I do find it funny that THUMBTACK would actually believe that the National Sports Academy and the American Hockey Academy could be even with Shattuck"

Shattuck, NAHA and NSA are all hockey mills, where athletics come first and academics come second. They may not be even in terms of hockey teams, but they are very similar in their priorities.

I would much rather see my daughter go to a school like Taft or Deerfield, where athletics are the first priority.

ARM
11-19-2003, 08:00 PM
brookyone, C/E/C's goalie is named Johanna Ellison. She stopped 82 of 85 shots at state and carried her team to OT of the championship game.

toots
11-19-2003, 08:36 PM
"I would much rather see my daughter go to a school like Taft or Deerfield, where athletics are the first priority."
I believe you meant academics are the first priority