Girls Prep Hockey

[berkshirebear99]

Berkshire onto finals with a 3-1 win over Lawrence... PREDICTION: Berkshire to win 4-2 in finals vs Pomfret/Andover (most likely Pomfret...but you never know...)

[toots]

any word on the Andover-Pomfret score?
ushr.com is reporting a 2-1 Pomfret win.
SO, tomorrow at Dexter Southfield, for all the marbles...
10:30 am Brewster v. Greenwich Academy
12:30 pm Pomfret v. Berkshire

good teams - good luck to all

[ref11]

One for two today. Advantage Berkshire tomorrow. Spoke with a Berkshire parent who was at game. Berkshire's size was an advantage, Lawrence had trouble getting offense going. Berkshire sat on lead after 2 periods and just smartly dumped the puck in all third period keeping Lawrence bottled up.

One game for all the marbles tomorrow. Good luck to all the girls. :cool:

[berkshirebear99]

Berkshire captured New England Division I title this afternoon. Score 4-1 over Pomfret.

[Icelady9]

Berkshire pretty much dominated the game throughout. Pomfret kept it close for a couple of periods, but in the thrid, the bears scored three unanswered goals. I'm not sure the game was ever in question though, Pomfret played thier one, maybe two star players into the ground the first two periods, they ran out of fuel slowly the second half of the game. The days of winning with 1 solid line are over, over, over. You cannot keep your star(s) on the ice for double, triple shifts, PP, and kills. Didn't we learn this lesson from Ben a few weeks ago? Conradulations to all the Bears, players, coaches, parents fantastic season.

[toots]

eteamz NEPSGIHA site has posted that Greenwich Academy defeated Brewster Academy 4-3 in Division II championship game. A bit of an upset. Would love to hear a report from any eyewitness.

a side question - how many seniors will Berkshire and Pomfret lose?

Congrats to both Greenwich and Berkshire! Quite an accomplishment, ladies.

[ref11]

eteamz NEPSGIHA site has posted that Greenwich Academy defeated Brewster Academy 4-3 in Division II championship game. A bit of an upset. Would love to hear a report from any eyewitness.

a side question - how many seniors will Berkshire and Pomfret lose?

Congrats to both Greenwich and Berkshire! Quite an accomplishment, ladies.

Berkshire loses three seniors, Pomfret eight according to ushr. :cool:

[Black Bear]

Berkshire loses three seniors, Pomfret eight according to ushr. :cool:

First, hats off to Greenwich, they played their hearts out, as did Brewster, and got a well deserved victory. Perhaps the key goal came when a Brewster defenseman, sliding on the ice in front of the goal, accidently knocked the puck into the net, after the initial stop by the goalie, before the goalie or her defensive partner could clear it. Brewster probably out shot Greenwich by a fair margin but too many of the shots were right into the goalies chest. Couple of bounces go Brewster's way, couple of girls were closer to 100%.............but, that's sports. One thing I really found myself questioning was the quality of refereeing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the refs cost Brewster the game because I can think of a number of plays where I would have called penalties on Brewster girls that went uncalled. Same for Greenwich. It was a fairly physical game and overall, I think the girls should get to play hockey and determine the outcome themselves. However, on Greenwich's first goal, there was a pile of players in the crease, goalie was down, for what seemed like 10 seconds, no whistle. I was at the wrong end of the ice to have a good visual opinion but I don't know how the ref could have still had his eye on the puck. Maybe he did.....that was the best part of Greenwich's game today, the way they drove the net. What bothered me several times, and left me wondering why there were three refs on the ice, was a feeling that they were very often out of position to make a call even if they had wanted to. On a faceoff in the third period, in Greenwich's defensive zone, this is how the refs positioned themselves. Obviously, one dropping the puck in the faceoff circle. Seond ref was along the boards, same side of the ice, at the blue line. OK. The third ref, and I found myself wondering what the heck he was doing, was out on the red line, same side of the ice as the faceoff. MIght as well have been in the lobby. Hey, maybe some referee can tell me what they might have been doing but, as I said, overall I was left feeling, several times, that the refs were either totally out of synch with each other or just had a bad game. Shouldn't the third ref have been on the opposite side of the ice? Several off sides calls seemed to be made not by the ref on the blueline but a ref trailing the play. Did they determine the outcome of the game? No. Greenwich won and has every right to be proud of their win. The Brewster girls wanted to win for their captain, senior Carole Leblanc, more than anything, and were crushed afterwards because they knew that this was not their best game of the year. But, like I said, that's sports and they'll be back next year with their team only losing two seniors. As I told my daughter, when you don't feel like doing off ice or the "dirty work" of training this summer, remember how crappy it felt to stand and watch Greenwich celebrate and use that feeling as motivation. It's not just the highs in sports that build character, it's the combination of highs and lows. One thing for sure, it was a great game to watch regardless of the outcome. Two teams who left it all on the ice.

[ref11]

Black Bear. I'll try and answer your question(s)

"On a faceoff in the third period, in Greenwich's defensive zone, this is how the refs positioned themselves. Obviously, one dropping the puck in the faceoff circle. Seond ref was along the boards, same side of the ice, at the blue line. OK. The third ref, and I found myself wondering what the heck he was doing, was out on the red line, same side of the ice as the faceoff. MIght as well have been in the lobby."

From your above description and initial quote I am making the asumption that the game was called with a two official / one linesman system. Which is common at the NCAA level. This means you probably got two officials and a linesman who are doing more NCAA games that girls prep games. This is a good thing and would be consistant with;

"It was a fairly physical game and overall, I think the girls should get to play hockey and determine the outcome themselves." The college girls game has more physical play.

NCAA rules for the above referenced posting should have one ref (oposite where the faceoff is being conducted) at the goal line, the linesman conducting the face off and the other referee on the blue line (same side as the puck being dropped). The linesmen conducting the faceoff would back peddle to the blue line with the ref moving back to between the blue and red line. NCAA rulebook (reference HM-27). Not sure if the puck had been dropped from your description but in any event it does not appear to have effected the outcome and is consistant with the rule book.

"Shouldn't the third ref have been on the opposite side of the ice? Several off sides calls seemed to be made not by the ref on the blueline but a ref trailing the play."

I have no problem with another official making a call when my view might be obstructed.

"As I told my daughter, when you don't feel like doing off ice or the "dirty work" of training this summer, remember how crappy it felt to stand and watch Greenwich celebrate and use that feeling as motivation."

Love this quote.

Good luck to your Daughter, sounds like she has a great Dad!
:cool:

[Black Bear]

Black Bear. I'll try and answer your question(s)

"On a faceoff in the third period, in Greenwich's defensive zone, this is how the refs positioned themselves. Obviously, one dropping the puck in the faceoff circle. Seond ref was along the boards, same side of the ice, at the blue line. OK. The third ref, and I found myself wondering what the heck he was doing, was out on the red line, same side of the ice as the faceoff. MIght as well have been in the lobby."

From your above description and initial quote I am making the asumption that the game was called with a two official / one linesman system. Which is common at the NCAA level. This means you probably got two officials and a linesman who are doing more NCAA games that girls prep games. This is a good thing and would be consistant with;

"It was a fairly physical game and overall, I think the girls should get to play hockey and determine the outcome themselves." The college girls game has more physical play.

NCAA rules for the above referenced posting should have one ref (oposite where the faceoff is being conducted) at the goal line, the linesman conducting the face off and the other referee on the blue line (same side as the puck being dropped). The linesmen conducting the faceoff would back peddle to the blue line with the ref moving back to between the blue and red line. NCAA rulebook (reference HM-27). Not sure if the puck had been dropped from your description but in any event it does not appear to have effected the outcome and is consistant with the rule book.

"Shouldn't the third ref have been on the opposite side of the ice? Several off sides calls seemed to be made not by the ref on the blueline but a ref trailing the play."

I have no problem with another official making a call when my view might be obstructed.

"As I told my daughter, when you don't feel like doing off ice or the "dirty work" of training this summer, remember how crappy it felt to stand and watch Greenwich celebrate and use that feeling as motivation."

Love this quote.

Good luck to your Daughter, sounds like she has a great Dad!
:cool:

Thanks for the response Ref. One thing I've learned is that there is a good reason that they don't put a referee up with the spectators. Like I said, it was a great game and anyone who would say that the referees decided the game would be wrong. For my daughter, she's just a freshman and Brewster returns almost their whole team so, just like the Red Sox, maybe next year.

[Radar3535]

Does anyone know if they still pick a All-New England Prep school team?I know they have done it in the past.If so, where can that info be found?

[WFR]

I would also be curious to see if there is a Division Il New England Prep School Team. As I see most of the Connecticut Prep Schools I will put out a few names from Ct.
Goal-------Bellonio--------Pomfret
Parisi----------Hotchkiss

Defense----Dziel-----------Loomis-(not sure of spelling)

Forwards---Long-----------Pomfret
Knight----------Choate
Ragen----------Loomis
Edell-----------Hotchkiss

Any thoughts or comments or ADDITIONS.

[knightsfan]

I would also be curious to see if there is a Division Il New England Prep School Team. As I see most of the Connecticut Prep Schools I will put out a few names from Ct.
Goal-------Bellonio--------Pomfret
Parisi----------Hotchkiss

Defense----Dziel-----------Loomis-(not sure of spelling)

Forwards---Long-----------Pomfret
Knight----------Choate
Ragen----------Loomis
Edell-----------Hotchkiss

Any thoughts or comments or ADDITIONS.

Add to the forwards list.

Cash ------------Williston Northampton

Just my suggestion

[Slug79]

Defense----Dziel-----------Loomis-(not sure of spelling)


Dziengelewski (Jingle-lew-ski) Most people resort to "Raylen".

I too am CT based (biased), and Appleton (D) & Ryabinka (F) on Berkshire aren't too shabby either.

[ref11]

From one who see's the CT teams when they come North to Mass:

Jule Flynn - Defense - Nobles
Caroline Murphy - Defense - Pomfret

(??First Name) Duggan - Forward - Cushing
Micalela Long - Forward - Pomfret
Hillary Knight - Forward - Choate
Molly Schaus - Goal - Deerfield

:cool:

[whfan]

Does anyone know if they still pick a All-New England Prep school team?I know they have done it in the past.If so, where can that info be found?

I know Raylen and Ragen both made the all New England team - the only 2 juniors to do so.

[ref11]

I know Raylen and Ragen both made the all New England team - the only 2 juniors to do so.

No Hillary Knight who is a junior? Who IMO opinion is the strongest player I saw come north. Can you direct us to web site? :cool:

[hockeyyfan]

Add to the forwards list.

Cash ------------Williston Northampton

Just my suggestion

I believe she's played varsity there since 7th grade......great kid too

[Radar3535]

I know Raylen and Ragen both made the all New England team - the only 2 juniors to do so. Where did you get this info? Are you sure it wasn't the all tournament team?

[slapshot2]

Agree on Molly Schaus, a great goaltender.