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vicb
10-03-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Ralph Baer
Don't forget the Clarkson is still the Red Sox of college hockey. :D

No Ralph, at least the Dead Sox have a Championship (1918). Now calling us the Buffalo Bills of College Hockey is more like it :) .
vicb
10-03-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by kashmunnie73
Even with scholarships.....it's unrealistic to think SLU, RPI or Clarkson can compete for national title....the new guys llike Ohio State will continue to improve their recruiting. You'll be lucky to stay ahead of Union, Colgate, and Holy Cross. kash

That is probably true kash, however all they want and we as fans want is as level a playing field as possible. If SLU, RPI, CC and CU are allowed to play in Div I as Div III institutions, let's allow them to play with the same rules IF THEY CHOOSES TO DO SO as the other Div I schools. It should be their perogative if athletic scholarships are allowed for Div I program to give them, not some hypocritical jealous institutions forcing this rule on them.
RichS
10-03-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Ralph Baer
Don't forget the Clarkson is still the Red Sox of college hockey. :D

Ralph,

That's neither accurate or funny. Tech fans are hardly the whiny, obsessed type that desperate Sox fans are. :rolleyes:
KLEINER!!!
10-03-2003, 06:05 PM
I like to think of Clarkson as the New York Rangers of college hockey. :D
kashmunnie73
10-03-2003, 07:40 PM
...geez...SLU, CU and RPI want to hide out in D3 in the soft Ivy League hockey conference and beat up on Colgate, Union, and Princeton. But for Harv and Cornell, it is a tier 2 conference. If you want to go for the national title...do it like Hopkins and Colorado College...they play all year long with the big boys. Why not jion one of the mid-western serious D1 hockey conferences? kash
Ralph Baer
10-04-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by RichS
Ralph,

That's neither accurate or funny. Tech fans are hardly the whiny, obsessed type that desperate Sox fans are. :rolleyes: The team, not the fans, Rich. :)
RichS
10-04-2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Ralph Baer
The team, not the fans, Rich. :)

still....not accurate...:D
RSTuthill
10-04-2003, 02:19 PM
Stemmer, gotta side with Ralph on this one. And you are completely off base with your characterization of the Red Sox. In my youth, I was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. That addiction wasn't broken until the Austrailian Murdock bought the team. Boston is the modern day Brooklyn. Any doubts you might have should be erased by Thursday night's game. They weren't called da Bums for nuthin.
miker
10-04-2003, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by kashmunnie73
...geez...SLU, CU and RPI want to hide out in D3 in the soft Ivy League hockey conference and beat up on Colgate, Union, and Princeton. But for Harv and Cornell, it is a tier 2 conference. If you want to go for the national title...do it like Hopkins and Colorado College...they play all year long with the big boys. Why not jion one of the mid-western serious D1 hockey conferences? kash

Kash...before I respond, do some investigation on the formation of Hockey East, and the reasons schools that stayed to form the current ECAC
RichS
10-04-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by RSTuthill
Stemmer, gotta side with Ralph on this one. And you are completely off base with your characterization of the Red Sox. In my youth, I was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. That addiction wasn't broken until the Austrailian Murdock bought the team. Boston is the modern day Brooklyn. Any doubts you might have should be erased by Thursday night's game. They weren't called da Bums for nuthin.

Dick, I dont see a close comparison between the passionate, rabid Brooklyn fans of yore and the pathetic, obsessed Sox fans of today. Yeah, I admire their loyalty today and I suppose a lot of the difference I see now is due to the changing of the times. But the character is largely different. Just how am I off base? I've known Red Sox fans for 30 years now.

I think a lot of old time Brooklyn fans, and I know quite a few, would throw up at your comparing them with today's Sox fans. :D
KLEINER!!!
10-05-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by RichS
Dick, I dont see a close comparison between the passionate, rabid Brooklyn fans of yore and the pathetic, obsessed Sox fans of today. Yeah, I admire their loyalty today and I suppose a lot of the difference I see now is due to the changing of the times. But the character is largely different. Just how am I off base? I've known Red Sox fans for 30 years now.

I think a lot of old time Brooklyn fans, and I know quite a few, would throw up at your comparing them with today's Sox fans. :D

Pretty funny coming from Jersey trash. Where are all of Jersey's teams?...1940!!!:D
miker
10-05-2003, 02:17 AM
NCAA petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/NCAAD3/petition.html)

Just curious...since there are 235 pages of members....if I assume only 50% are active, and 70% agree with the petition...shouldn't I have ~2500 signatures from people that use this board?

Now if 10% of those people tell ONE person, that should be an additional 250....so....there should be 2750 signatures from this forum.

I looked through the entire signature list., very few HE, CHA, Atlantic Hockey or CCHA fans. Suppose it is true, if it doesn't affect you, who cares? Or this proposal passing is a way for the newer conferences to gain more prominence?

Or some people believe the only way to grow hockey is through the large schools??
kashmunnie73
10-05-2003, 10:31 AM
.btw...what are the ECAC/Ivy League rules on early start/length of season/number of games?....I can't believe the student athletes of SLU start games October 2 or so.....I would think Lawrence Summers will join Prez McCardell soon in reigning the excesses of college hockey....it must be so tough on pre-med hockey players. kash...
d3follower
10-05-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by kashmunnie73
.btw...what are the ECAC/Ivy League rules on early start/length of season/number of games?....I can't believe the student athletes of SLU start games October 2 or so.....I would think Lawrence Summers will join Prez McCardell soon in reigning the excesses of college hockey....it must be so tough on pre-med hockey players. kash...

It looks as though the Ivies may have their own more restrictive rules -- they start their seasons on about Oct 24. Many of the non-Ivy ECAC have actually begun their seasons already, with SLU playing 2 games this weekend (Oct 3 and 4).
Ralph Baer
10-05-2003, 05:31 PM
Yes, the Ivies have the own rules for starting date, number of games in the season, and, of course, scholarships. (anything else?) However, they do not feel that they should impose their rules on the ECAC. This first happened last year WRT number of games in the season. Makes a lot of sense to me.
RichS
10-05-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by KLEINER!!!
Pretty funny coming from Jersey trash. Where are all of Jersey's teams?...1940!!!:D

Jersey trash...huh? :confused:

1940? Don't you mean 1994? :D
KLEINER!!!
10-06-2003, 12:00 AM
You live in Jersey, right? Is this not the nickname New Yorkers give for Jersey people? (I don't agree with it, but it seems applicable for a New Jerseyite who thinks he's a New Yorker).

1994? You got me there...sure beats 1995, 2000, and 2003.
RichS
10-06-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by KLEINER!!!
You live in Jersey, right? Is this not the nickname New Yorkers give for Jersey people? (I don't agree with it, but it seems applicable for a New Jerseyite who thinks he's a New Yorker).

1994? You got me there...sure beats 1995, 2000, and 2003.

Nice try smartie...:rolleyes:

First of all, it's "New Jerseyan", not "Jerseyite". Secondly, I am a New Yorker by birth...born, raised, and educated upstate and "only" been in NJ the past 20+ years, most of which I've spent working in NYC. Have been a fan of the NY area teams, not incl the Devils :D all my life.

In the NY metro area, no one really distinguishes or cares whether one lives in NY, NJ, or CT when it comes to being a fan of NY teams.

So yeah, I'm a New Yorker! :D
KLEINER!!!
10-06-2003, 01:40 PM
Okay, so you're originally from New York. http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/contrib/anym/medal.gif Congratulations.

Likewise, I admire your devotion to some of the worst teams in professional sports. It's nice to see people from CT, NJ, and NY coming together to not watch hockey, basketball, or football playoffs.
RichS
10-06-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by KLEINER!!!
Okay, so you're originally from New York. http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/contrib/anym/medal.gif Congratulations.

Likewise, I admire your devotion to some of the worst teams in professional sports. It's nice to see people from CT, NJ, and NY coming together to not watch hockey, basketball, or football playoffs.

No congrats needed :D

Funny but I recall watching a lot of NFL playoffs in recent years...Giants...and Knicks too until the last couple of years. Or are you rewriting history? :rolleyes: