RPI Women's Hockey

[polarbear2]

Sounds like it was a game you should've been at...I'll try to listen tonight....rooting for RPI, of course:D

[purple_and_gold10]

Originally posted by polarbear2
Sounds like it was a game you should've been at...I'll try to listen tonight....rooting for RPI, of course:D

i'd say pretty much everyone except Manhattanville fans are going to be rooting for RPI tonight;) :D including me:cool:

[leeb]

I don't know how many people there were at the game last night but it was the biggest crowd I've ever seen for a women's game at RPI and I've been going to games for the last 3 or 4 years.

Very solid, gutty performance by the women last night. Are they as talented as M'ville? Nope. Do they have as much depth? Definitely not. Can RPI win tonight? You betcha, and it will depend on RPI playing better overall team defense, Rosina staying solid in goal and the forwards converting on more opportunities.

[mr_itty]

I don't know how many people there were at the game last night but it was the biggest crowd I've ever seen for a women's game at RPI and I've been going to games for the last 3 or 4 years.

Very solid, gutty performance by the women last night. Are they as talented as M'ville? Nope. Do they have as much depth? Definitely not. Can RPI win tonight? You betcha, and it will depend on RPI playing better overall team defense, Rosina staying solid in goal and the forwards converting on more opportunities.


Well, I hope you were at tonight's game, because I think the crowd was even bigger tonight. Awesome game by the RPI women. And what an amazing last home game for the seniors... well, unless they can stay in first place and make the tournament come to RPI this year. :-)

[leeb]

Definitely a bigger crowd. It's great to see the women get that kind of support in a huge game. What a way to go out for the seniors. But they aren't done yet. They have 5 games left, can they run the table? Definitely, but UMass-Boston seems like a solid opponent even though they are a new team and Williams will be tough in their own barn. We shall see.

Another tough, gritty performance by RPI. M'ville controlled big chunks of the first and second periods, with RPI making sloppy passes and generally not skating particularly well. I don't know if it was fatigue or what but it looked like they were skating in mud at times. But then Welte scored the lone goal of the game and it really gave the players a jump start. They played the rest of the second period and all of the third with some real passion.

Rosina Schiff is at least one of the three best goalies in the nation, if not the best. I certainly haven't seen all of them but all anyone would have to do is see her performances against Clarkson, M'ville, etc. to be convinced.

You think NOW RPI will be ranked? Ha!

[mr_itty]

Originally posted by leeb
Rosina Schiff is at least one of the three best goalies in the nation, if not the best. I certainly haven't seen all of them but all anyone would have to do is see her performances against Clarkson, M'ville, etc. to be convinced.

You think NOW RPI will be ranked? Ha!

The best part is that Schiff is a sophomore - meaning if the timetable works out the way they want, we could be seeing her goaltending a Division I team her senior year. That would be something.

I agree, an incredible performance by Schiff last night. Some of those grabs were just too quick to see. She deserved every ounce of applause we were giving her.

[purple_and_gold10]

Originally posted by leeb
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Rosina Schiff is at least one of the three best goalies in the nation, if not the best. I certainly haven't seen all of them but all anyone would have to do is see her performances against Clarkson, M'ville, etc. to be convinced.



ehhh...lets hold off on that comment until you see some more of the top teams in the D3 nation....Im not saying she isnt because i have yet to see her play but all im saying is lets hold off until you see some more top teams like Elmira, Plattsburgh, Middlebury, Stevens Point, Bowdoin, Superior;)

Im sorry but comparing her just to Manhattanville's and RIT's goalies isnt going to cut it with the previous 6 i listed.

[jericho]

Originally posted by mr_itty
Well, I hope you were at tonight's game, because I think the crowd was even bigger tonight. Awesome game by the RPI women. And what an amazing last home game for the seniors... well, unless they can stay in first place and make the tournament come to RPI this year. :-)

My estimate is about 700 people.

[Red Cloud]

The game was very well advertised on campus and the Saturday night game was a great send-off for the seniors - who should still have 2 more games at home before all is said and done.

I wish I could have been there this weekend - I was traveling with the men's team to Dartmouth and Vermont - but still a great weekend for the Engineers! Now on to Sloppy... uh... Salve Regina! :D ;)

[Red Cloud]

Originally posted by purple_and_gold10
ehhh...lets hold off on that comment until you see some more of the top teams in the D3 nation Well we wouldn't be able to play Elmira, Superior, etc. until the NCAAs, would we?

The numbers speak for themselves - 0.99 GAA with 13 games played, only 13 goals allowed on 333 shots (best in the nation by a whole percentage point), 1-1-1 against D-I teams (46 saves against Clarkson), and a split over the #1 scoring team in the country, stopping 91 of 93 shots on the weekend.

I'd say it's an EXCELLENT argument.

[purple_and_gold10]

Originally posted by RPIRED
Well we wouldn't be able to play Elmira, Superior, etc. until the NCAAs, would we?

The numbers speak for themselves - 0.99 GAA with 13 games played, only 13 goals allowed on 333 shots (best in the nation by a whole percentage point), 1-1-1 against D-I teams (46 saves against Clarkson), and a split over the #1 scoring team in the country, stopping 91 of 93 shots on the weekend.

I'd say it's an EXCELLENT argument.

is that our fault that RPI plays a weak schedule?? NO

And with that weak schedule of course she has that low of a GGA....She has only played 6 worthwhile games during the season so far against RIT (2), Manhattanville (2), Clarkson, and Vermont....

Her numbers are impressive and she may be a top 3 goalie but all im saying is wait until the NCAA's where the bigtime goalies will be and already have shined...IE. Edith Racine of Elmira.....RPI may not even get into the NCAA's...the road is still a long fight as im 95% sure that RPI is going to have to win their conference to get into the tourney.....Their SOS just wont be enouugh against a Elmira, Plattsburgh, Bowdoin, or Middlebury during Pool C selection time...

Maybe next year RPI will schedule the top teams and then this whole arguement will be moot...

then again you are jumping to D1 soon so who's going to want to schedule you?:confused:

EDIT: Also might want to check out Elmira's Kristen Lillie...her GGA is tops in the nation.....

[rpi_fan03]

For such a "weak" schedule RPI still seems to have some pretty high mease and rpi ratings!! Didn't think the two were possible at the same time...

Also, lets just throw in a little reminder of all those tough conference games the ECAC west teams play...Cortland? Neumann? Buff. State? Chatham?

Between Elmira and Platty there are 11 league games (assuming I am counting correctly) that they scored more than 8 goals....you have to go four teams deep in the East to get that same number...

Do they have a tougher D3 non-conf schedule than most? NO
But overall I would say their strength of schedule isn't too shabby...they play 8 non-con game....5 were D1 teams (2-1-2 record) some of which I recall played other D3 teams and beat them...1 non-con game against Utica which is proving to be a very good team from the west who are getting a lot of respect for "close losses" ...and then 2 NESCAC teams (one of which has not been played yet) and the other is the one non-con game I would consider to be "weak"


so, thus far they have played 7 good non-con games, and compiled a record of 4-1-2...they have played 13 conference games and have a record of 10-2-1 where one loss was to the top-ranked team in the nation and the other was to a non-ranked team who proceeded to knock off a team that many felt would be a dark horse in the league (NEC over RIT) and the tie was to that same "dark horse" team....oh, and not to mention that they beat the team that the majority of "great hockey minds" around the country had ranked as #1

you can look at this as me banging my drum up on my soap box...but personally I enjoy that no one takes RPI seriously...it is that much more fuel to add to their fire...I just would really rather not hear again that they have a "weak schedule" when other conferences are considered strong based on the previous national prominence of one or two teams and the "close losses" of others:)

[purple_and_gold10]

Originally posted by RPI_fan03
For such a "weak" schedule RPI still seems to have some pretty high mease and rpi ratings!! Didn't think the two were possible at the same time...

Also, lets just throw in a little reminder of all those tough conference games the ECAC west teams play...Cortland? Neumann? Buff. State? Chatham?

Between Elmira and Platty there are 11 league games (assuming I am counting correctly) that they scored more than 8 goals....you have to go four teams deep in the East to get that same number...

Do they have a tougher D3 non-conf schedule than most? NO
But overall I would say their strength of schedule isn't too shabby...they play 8 non-con game....5 were D1 teams (2-1-2 record) some of which I recall played other D3 teams and beat them...1 non-con game against Utica which is proving to be a very good team from the west who are getting a lot of respect for "close losses" ...and then 2 NESCAC teams (one of which has not been played yet) and the other is the one non-con game I would consider to be "weak"


so, thus far they have played 7 good non-con games, and compiled a record of 4-1-2...they have played 13 conference games and have a record of 10-2-1 where one loss was to the top-ranked team in the nation and the other was to a non-ranked team who proceeded to knock off a team that many felt would be a dark horse in the league (NEC over RIT) and the tie was to that same "dark horse" team....oh, and not to mention that they beat the team that the majority of "great hockey minds" around the country had ranked as #1

you can look at this as me banging my drum up on my soap box...but personally I enjoy that no one takes RPI seriously...it is that much more fuel to add to their fire...I just would really rather not hear again that they have a "weak schedule" when other conferences are considered strong based on the previous national prominence of one or two teams and the "close losses" of others:)

#1....thats what beating the #1 team in the nation does for ya...guess where RPI would be if they had lost?? #11 or #12 correct me if im wrong UCBadger...

#2 The ECAC West is not the strongest conference top to bottom you're right....But id take my power three of Elmira, Plattsburgh, and Utica into battle any day against the top 3 of any other conference in the country and when the day is over i bet the ECAC West wins atleast 2 of those matchups against pretty much every conference...

#3 D1 teams cant be determined when calculating SOS because those games basically dont count....

#4 you make good points..i just dont like the fact that RPI fans are screaming out stardom after 1 big win over Manhattaville...the win is nice and you will get your respect but to call your goalie the best in the nation already...ummm no thats working with the well established teams who have been to the big dance...:cool:

[Red Cloud]

Originally posted by purple_and_gold10
is that our fault that RPI plays a weak schedule?? NO Gee, I guess we would be more important if we played a stronger schedule. There's more to life than strong schedule.

EDIT: Also might want to check out Elmira's Kristen Lillie...her GGA is tops in the nation..... After five whole games. See, I can use petty discounts too.

If you want to keep discounting RPI because of their schedule you go right ahead. I'm sure they don't care what a 16-year old thinks anyway.

Bottom line is there's no one who has the resume and numbers this year like Rosina Schiff.

[Red Cloud]

Originally posted by purple_and_gold10
#1....thats what beating the #1 team in the nation does for ya...guess where RPI would be if they had lost?? #11 or #12 correct me if im wrong UCBadger... Gee, we were #1 in RPI coming into the weekend... aww....

#3 D1 teams cant be determined when calculating SOS because those games basically dont count.... Yeah, I hear ya... if we'd lost twice to Clarkson I'd be saying that too.

#4 you make good points..i just dont like the fact that RPI fans are screaming out stardom after 1 big win over Manhattaville You need to get over it then. We are very excited and proud of what we've accomplished this year and we're moving on up. Deal.

[Seabiscuit]

Congratulations to RPI on a big win vs. Manhattanville, but I still think that Edith Racine is the best goalie in DIII, not taking anything away from the RPI goalie, but having seen her a number of times, she is DI calibre, and plays her best when it really counts. Let's see how RPI does in the playoffs before we hand off the title of best goalie in DIII.:)

[Red Cloud]

Originally posted by Seabiscuit
Congratulations to RPI on a big win vs. Manhattanville, but I still think that Edith Racine is the best goalie in DIII, not taking anything away from the RPI goalie, but having seen her a number of times, she is DI calibre, and plays her best when it really counts. I can understand an argument for Racine - but not a discounting of Schiff as we are dealing with.

[hab]

Two great games this weekend. I was impressed with both teams. I would agree with the comment that overall Manhattanville seems to have a little more depth. But the games were quite even on the whole. There was a stretch in the second period of the first game and the first period of the second game where Manhattanville dominated and Schiff saved the day, but otherwise both teams had enough good scoring opportunities to make for some very entertaining hockey. And the crowd was really involved...nice to see a large and vocal crowd like that coming out for a D3 game.

[skate1024]

Speaking as someone who is non-partial, I would have to say that RPI has done an excellent job this year in beefing up their schedule by playing some lower end DI schools and most recently beating top D3 school Manhattanville. It's unfortunate that Elmira, Plattsburg, and Middlebury aren't on their schedule. When comparing top schools......Elmira has also added some lower end DI schools to their shedule but has had no success the past 2 years. Middlebury plays in the weak NESCAC conference (aside from Bowdoin and maybe Williams) where they get to beat up on the other schools twice. Their one attempt at DI Clarkson resulted in a 6-2 loss. Plattsburg's one attempt at a DI program resulted in a 4-1 loss to Clarkson. What does this all mean? RPI has done well against the better teams. I can't count their DI tie against Union or their win over DI imposter Sacred Heart as anything special, but they did beat Quinnipiac, tied Clarkson, and played a solid game in a 3-0 loss to Vermont. Let's give these guys some credit. I think they would be a great addition the to the D3 tournament this year and I hope they make it in.

[nut_case]

Good observation about RPI's stronger schedule this year, except for the knock against Union. If they were in D-3 this year they would easily be a top 10 team.