official thread of the UNH wildcats

[chiefsfan]

Goal Scorers:
Paul
Hansen
Wright-Ward
Goulet
Garland
Jones

Assists:
Hekle (2)
Hansen (2)
Paul (2)
Caleo
VanMassenhove
Gordon
Wedster

Bourdon 11 saves

[ARM]

There is talk in anticipation of Harvard at UMD, but I haven't seen much about Dartmouth at UNH. This is another key contest in defining how teams stack up. Hopefully, some will attend and be able to share their thoughts on the two teams after the game.

[binnyrus]

I am hopeful that UNH puts up a great fight . . . or that one or two other teams from the east begin to challenge Dartmouth or Harvard. Otherwise it would appear we're headed to a 5-team race . . . Minnesota, Dartmouth, Harvard, UMD and Wisconsin.

So, I for one am cheering for UNH!!!!!

[dave1381]

well, Dartmouth vs. UNH and Dartmouth vs. Mercyhurst are both matchups of possible conference champions... Mercyhurst just might have the better chance of the upset, and this game has more stake for them since they play so few games against top ten teams.

[Gibber]

I tell you what, UNH played a very solid game tonight. They played as well as dartmouth for most of the games, and if not for a few bad decisions (DC's first goal, Bourdon wandered out of her net, and the puck ended up in front, and DC had an early goal, on the 2nd goal, a D-man was indecisive, and pinched up and didn't get the puck, and DC had a 3 on 1 and scored....) UNH wins the game, Good to see them play to that level.

I have a quick question to pose, why does a referee make a penalty call more severe based soley on the resulting injury, rather than the play itself? The check by caleo resulting in the injury (a very unfortunate injury, and I hope she will be okay) was no worse than the 2 minute check by DC's #14 in the 2nd period that was actually a more dangerous play (from behind)...

I've seen this happen frequently in both men's and women's hockey, and I understand they want to prevent injury, but if the DC player gets right up, it's a 2 minute body checking penalty, but because she was injured, it's a major?

On that note, I like what I saw out of UNH tonight.

[seasquirt]

I have to agree with the Gibber. It was a well played game. I know I sound like a broken record but game after game the team shows signs of improvement as well as grit and hard work.. The played much better then their last game against Harvard, but even at the Harvard game I saw signs of improvement. It will be interesting to see how things go at when they pick up the season after the Christmas break. They will start with Dartmouth again at home.
As to the Christmas Break are we going to see Randi MacMaster back on the ice?
Lastly lets tell your friends and neighbors about how much fun it is to watch these games and see if we can get the players the fans in the seats that they deserve.

[binnyrus]

First off, I sure hope Piper fully recovers (and soon) from the injury. Don't ever like to see that.


Originally posted by Gibber
I have a quick question to pose, why does a referee make a penalty call more severe based soley on the resulting injury, rather than the play itself?

My brother's a ref and I've asked him that question myself. His answer really put it in the realm of judgement call. He said it all depends on the tone of the game . . . and of individual players. Occasionally, he'd wait a moment or two to see if the player got up to determine the severity of the penalty he handed out. My impression was that it's another tool the ref has to maintain control and authority on the rink. From the box I see 4 checking and two high Sticks . . . it wouldn't surprise me if the ref felt he had to send a message . .

I believe he once told me that he said to a player: "If you can't learn to control your hits, I'll do it for you."

[ClOuD 9]

One of the better game the 'Cats have played this year. Another game with a goal/no goal/too close to call moment like Harvard, and another game with a GWG coming from a bad play by Clement, just like Harvard... They are getting better, but just can't seem to pull it off in the end (i.e. in the third with half the net open UNH misses their shot by 5 feet).

Dartmouth's goalie seemed to be having problems similiar to Boe's with the ice size and getting the angles down in the first, there was a walk in early on where Cochran left a good chunk of the net unprotected.

Last night was probably the most I have ever seen the crowd get in to it, and the pep bands attendance was another plus (come on people, they're not THAT bad).

[dayglo]

Was at the game last nite. UNH played well, had a good forecheck going and seemed to take the Green out of its game at times. They played hard and, for the most part, well.
That said, it was definitely not Dartmouth's best game. For some reason the puck kept bouncing off their sticks . . . Normally steady, reliable people giving the puck up in our own end. . . maybe some post-exam fatigue(?), maybe some rust from 2 weeks' off. It was not a fun game to watch from the Dartmouth standpoint, of course Piper's injury (which we realize was not intentional) made it that much worse. We were lucky to get the W.
Disappointed in the attendance as well - there weren't as many Dartmouth fans there either as there have been some times in the past. I guess Fri PM 2 weeks before Christmas may not be the best timing.

[unh_hockey]

Originally posted by seasquirt

Lastly lets tell your friends and neighbors about how much fun it is to watch these games and see if we can get the players the fans in the seats that they deserve.

I try and get my friends to the games, but none of them come. It used to be myself and a few other posters on this board, but they don't show up now. The only other kids i know that go usually know a few of the players from their dorms.

[Bre]

I was at the game and the hit on Piper was a dangerous hit and it was either an intent to injure or # 21 is just out of control. The ref called it as it was. Why try to infer that the ref somehow had to call it worse than it was. She was checked into boards had a severe concussion, will be out indefinitely and could have broken her neck. There is no place for that in the sport.

[candianhockey]

Originally posted by Bre
I was at the game and the hit on Piper was a dangerous hit and it was either an intent to injure or # 21 is just out of control. The ref called it as it was. Why try to infer that the ref somehow had to call it worse than it was. She was checked into boards had a severe concussion, will be out indefinitely and could have broken her neck. There is no place for that in the sport.

I saw the hit too, and like many other posters, saw that it was incidental contact and unfortunately somone got hurt. I don't know what you were watching, but nobody on either team was ever under the impression that there was an intent to injure. If there had been intent, somebody on Dartmouth would have stood up for Piper. She's their best (or one of teir best) players and highly recognized. Not to mention they are the most penalized team in the country and probably would have taken two minutes if they thought there was a good reason.

[lyla33]

true that yea what about the elbows that DC was throwing kristen thomas got hit pretty hard and al the body checks it wasnt an intent to injure on her part piper was down on her knees and players were going for the puck if ppl want to argue we could ask y she was on her knees on the puck in the first place it was an attempt to fight for the puck in sry for her if she is out w/ a concussion they sux and even worse if she has a broken neck she did go into the boards wrong and that sux but hockey is hockey and ppl do get hurt and their is hitting i agree if anyone thought that was an intent to injure then im sure there would of been a scuffle but it was a hit(which there can be in hockey) and the womens game can be physical but im just saying i dont think there was any intent to injure her and im sry she is out DC needs her and things happen

[dayglo]

Happy to say that Piper is up and walking and was at the game this aft. Fortunately she did not fracture her neck, although there was some question about that initially at the hosp. She does have a concussion and says she doesn't feel too great, but all things considered looked good. Fortunately the team has a couple weeks off and then she'll be reevaluated as to whether she can get back on the ice.

It was a very scary thing to see. No one should take a head injury lightly. Remember, too, there are a lot of parents in the stands and I'm sure they're thinking "that could be my daughter" in addition to their concern for the individual involved.

My understanding of the major penalty called is that it's for "intent to injury OR injury resulting." So intent is not necessary to get a major penalty when a player is injured.

[Gibber]

Originally posted by Bre
I was at the game and the hit on Piper was a dangerous hit and it was either an intent to injure or # 21 is just out of control. The ref called it as it was. Why try to infer that the ref somehow had to call it worse than it was. She was checked into boards had a severe concussion, will be out indefinitely and could have broken her neck. There is no place for that in the sport.

The result was dangerous, but it had more to do with how she hit the boards, and not the hit, it was no more dangerous than #14's hit on Goulet (which actually looked worse than the Caleo hit) in the second period that was called for only a minor...

I'm glad she's doing better, and hopefully she will recover fully.

[MICZamboni]

Originally posted by lyla33
true that yea what about the elbows that DC was throwing kristen thomas got hit pretty hard and al the body checks it wasnt an intent to injure on her part piper was down on her knees and players were going for the puck if ppl want to argue we could ask y she was on her knees on the puck in the first place it was an attempt to fight for the puck in sry for her if she is out w/ a concussion they sux and even worse if she has a broken neck she did go into the boards wrong and that sux but hockey is hockey and ppl do get hurt and their is hitting i agree if anyone thought that was an intent to injure then im sure there would of been a scuffle but it was a hit(which there can be in hockey) and the womens game can be physical but im just saying i dont think there was any intent to injure her and im sry she is out DC needs her and things happen

The period is just underneath the L and semicolon.

[Offside]

Even a comma would have helped. I guess that's what happens when you lean on the keyboard.

[curiousgeorge]

Rumor has it ..... Piper is fine and next time they play UNH, #21 better keep her head up

[Grandaddy]

Originally posted by curiousgeorge
Rumor has it ..... Piper is fine and next time they play UNH, #21 better keep her head up

Really, tough guy. Are you saying this based on 'inside information'? Or are you just spouting off? It's unfortunate that Piper got injured, and if you're serious that Dartmouth would look for some kind of retribution (why they wouldn't do it right after the incident is a mystery to me, but you're the expert), that would be pretty classy... I could just say that the hit on Piper was already retribution for her hit on the UNH player in the second period which was a much harder hit, but that would be ridiculous thing to say now wouldn't it.

[HEfanatic]

Originally posted by curiousgeorge
Rumor has it ..... Piper is fine and next time they play UNH, #21 better keep her head up

hahahhahahahahahahhahahahaa
i was having a pretty ****ty day until i saw this...
im not sure if this is a joke or not but i find it quite humorous nonetheless.
who brought the funny man?