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Grandaddy
03-18-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by HEfanatic
i would LOVE to see chanda gunn leave NU for UNH. what a find that would be to follow up huggon with gunn. i know it is unlikely but it would be cool.

she'd have to sit out a year, she already transfered from Wisco to NU, and if you transfer a second time, you have to sit out.. which would be silly since she has one more year left (I think?)

nuhockeychic
03-18-2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Grandaddy
she'd have to sit out a year, she already transfered from Wisco to NU, and if you transfer a second time, you have to sit out.. which would be silly since she has one more year left (I think?)
Yes, Chanda has 1 year left... and because she would be required to sit out, and it would not be due to a redshirt or an injury, she would actually lose her final year of eligibility since she has already used up the 5 year NCAA "timeclock" allotted to her.

Grandaddy
03-18-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by nuhockeychic
Yes, Chanda has 1 year left... and because she would be required to sit out, and it would not be due to a redshirt or an injury, she would actually lose her final year of eligibility since she has already used up the 5 year NCAA "timeclock" allotted to her. so she's already sat out a year?

HEfanatic
03-18-2003, 09:35 PM
she could sit out a year and then play. she did not sit out after transferring from wisco.
that would be 1 yr wisco, 2 NU, one sat out, and then one UNH

stetem
03-18-2003, 09:41 PM
I think also...if you transfer to within the conference you would have to sit out a year

nuhockeychic
03-18-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by HEfanatic
she could sit out a year and then play. she did not sit out after transferring from wisco.
that would be 1 yr wisco, 2 NU, one sat out, and then one UNH
She has already played 3 years at NU... her 1 year at wisco was counted as a year on the time clock, but not a year of eligibility due to her departure because of her epilepsy. So, she only has 1 year left of eligibility and 1 year on her timeclock - so a transfer is not an option

HEfanatic
03-18-2003, 09:50 PM
i get it now...that sucks, would have been pretty sweet to have her in blue and white

nuhockeychic
03-18-2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by HEfanatic
i get it now...that sucks, would have been pretty sweet to have her in blue and white
as a teammate, i have to agree... despite what our record shows, she is an amazing goalie... and we are **** lucky to have her...

ClOuD 9
03-18-2003, 11:30 PM
I'm sure the UNH AD is more concerned about their mens team as it is the money maker but I hope for the sake of both programs they leave the ice size alone. The men have won two straight regular season titles and HE tournament titles, claiming they can't compete on smaller surfaces is a null argument from my point of view (and no I didn't sit down and talk to Umile about it so don't try that on me). There is no doubt in my mind that the olympic size serves as a huge home ice advantage to the womens team as well, obviously the stats posted below show that, and I'm sure it helped prepare the players that went on to the next level
(and no I didn't sit down and talk to them either...).

Grandaddy
03-18-2003, 11:43 PM
Cloud, I think the huge ice hurts the women more than it hurts the men... I've seen a handfull of women's games away from the Whitt this year, and they simply had a hard time dealing with the smaller sheet, whereas they dominate (except the Minny and Providence games, even though they won the PC game....) on the big sheet....

ClOuD 9
03-19-2003, 12:36 AM
Grand, so which do you feel is better for the womens program?

Grandaddy
03-19-2003, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by ClOuD 9
Grand, so which do you feel is better for the womens program?

Well, if you look around the country, there aren't many D1 women's hockey teams that play on the big sheet... even Minnesota, who used to play on the big sheet at Mariucci moved into a new rink with NHL sized ice. St. Cloud is the only other D1 team that plays on an olympic sheet (200X100). It is a big advantage against most teams at home, but like I said, I think it puts them at a big disadvantage on the road...
I guess it will be interesting to see what kind of players McCloskey looks to bring in.... UNH has a very small team compared to the better teams that I've seen this year, and on the smaller sheet, they've gotten muscled around (especially Sunday vs. PC)....

In conclusion, I like the big sheet, but unless the other teams move to a big sheet, I don't like to see them get pushed around..

topshelf25
03-19-2003, 10:00 AM
Why would you even think that Coach McCloskey would opt for bringing Gunn from NU? Why would he consider putting time into someone for one season?? If he was looking to put a transfer in place, I'm sure it would be a soph or junior, not a senior... doesn't make any sense. He's trying to build a team, not put a BandAid on it . I'm sure you will see a transfer to UNH as a first goalie, but I would bet the farm it won't be Chanda Gunn.

Da Big Bad Cow
03-19-2003, 10:15 AM
its not gunn. but it wouldnt surprise me if its hourihan

Grandaddy
03-19-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by topshelf25
Why would you even think that Coach McCloskey would opt for bringing Gunn from NU? Why would he consider putting time into someone for one season?? If he was looking to put a transfer in place, I'm sure it would be a soph or junior, not a senior... doesn't make any sense. He's trying to build a team, not put a BandAid on it . I'm sure you will see a transfer to UNH as a first goalie, but I would bet the farm it won't be Chanda Gunn.

That's what i was saying. in a few fewer words of course.

ARM
03-19-2003, 10:29 AM
Not that anyone asked me, but ...

I wondered about these same questions when Minnesota moved from Olympic-sized to an NHL-sized sheet. The Gophers had more small/fast players than big/strong players. Would the smaller surface work to their disadvantage?

Speed is still an asset, quickness even more so. Players who have a burst and catch reach top speed in a hurry make more of an impact. Also, shiftiness and good hands are at a premium. Skaters who take longer to get going are less effective on the narrow ice. Since the corners are closer to the crease, goalies have to be on their toes, because the puck is never far from the shooting zone. Players have to be disciplined in their coverages, because they won't have much time to recover.

Overall, the game is quicker and more exciting. The one caveat is that the officials need to call the holding, hooking, and interference, or the game can grind to a halt.

binnyrus
03-19-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by ARM
The one caveat is that the officials need to call the holding, hooking, and interference, or the game can grind to a halt.


You said it!!

Frozenaffairs
03-19-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Da Big Bad Cow
its not gunn. but it wouldnt surprise me if its hourihan


If the interconference transfer rule applies, I doubt that Hourihan would want to sit yet another year. This would also make her less attractive to UHN. They need immediate help in goal next year.

Therefore, it they go the tansfer route I would expect them to bring in a goalie from out of the conference with at least two years of eligibility left......preferably three.

I see UNH bringing in an elite frosh from the same mold as a Budgen, Horak, Reinen, etc. and a proven transfer. UNH should have no problem attracting a blue chipper, given their program status and the prospect of being able to start as a freshman.

Grandaddy
03-19-2003, 02:07 PM
McManus transfered from UNH->BC a few years ago and didn't trasnfer, same as Misikowetz from Maine->UNH... unless that changed when the ECAC split into two conferences I don't think there is such a rule (?)

nuhockeychic
03-19-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Frozenaffairs
If the interconference transfer rule applies, I doubt that Hourihan would want to sit yet another year. This would also make her less attractive to UHN. They need immediate help in goal next year.

Therefore, it they go the tansfer route I would expect them to bring in a goalie from out of the conference with at least two years of eligibility left......preferably three.

I see UNH bringing in an elite frosh from the same mold as a Budgen, Horak, Reinen, etc. and a proven transfer. UNH should have no problem attracting a blue chipper, given their program status and the prospect of being able to start as a freshman.
Just an FYI - the rule requiring all players, from ANY conference, to sit out a year when transfering from one NCAA-sanctioned school to another took effect in Women's Ice Hockey at the beginning of the 2001-02 season. Any player who was a freshman that year in now affected by this rule (meaning any player that is now going into her 3rd year). That being said, any transfer, even out of conference would be required to sit one year... (that is the reason that McManus, Misikowetz, and Pam Pachal (transfer from UMD-NU 2001-02) were not required to sit a year because they were already playing and the rule had not taken affect yet)