What The Holy Hell Is Going On?

[Husky Fan Roy]

Originally posted by Murray


A typical SCSU graduate? Handing out towels in Denny's?

Murray, I hope your last two posts are meant to be sarcastic. I really do.

[HankWP]

Yes, cambam, I have. I am 35, and I figured myself pretty seasoned... a veteran of our armed services, a summer cop for two years... hell, I started this thread after my wife called me and said she heard about it on Howard Stern... I kind of dismissed it. I thought it was a joke. Then an engineer here told me the same thing. I feel horrible for the thoughts that I had while it first started before the second plane...

When Jim Rittinger was chatting early on, it really put things into perspective... here is a guy who I spat/flamed/argued with passion... then his statements of what was going on... yes, I would do anything to help him now, and I think he knows that... even though we ******ed at eachother in the past... nothing is the same anymore... it will always be different, at least for me.

For us New Englander USCHO folks... I would love to get together and have a drink... together, not talking hockey, but finding something out about eachother... silent, mutual respect.

I just hope that pop-culture does not rape this incident any further... or our fellow Americans... no scams, or tasteless jokes... I feel the same way my parents feel when they learned when Jack Kennedy was shot... they never could put it into words... nor can I... or my Grandparents regarding Pearl Harbor...

I hope to make some friendships out of this, learn something about the people I have been chatting with on this e-board... and try to comprehend this... I find it devastating the pictures of people in desperation jumping to their deaths... or the crying people hoping for a bit of information about their loved ones... sad.

Henry.

[Scott Copley]

Somebody's quoting the analysts from the Fox network??? You've got to be kidding. Last night I turned on those clowns, and they were telling me about all these people being pulled out of the rubble (a miracle), whereas I couldn't find the same coverage anywhere else. Now I find out none of that is true. I know we're all looking for good news, but it would be nice to get the facts straight.

If I were you, I'd be afraid to admit that you agreed with what Fox was saying.

[Got 6, Want More]

Guys,

C'mon, please drop this discussion and personal attacks. I am no fan of most politicians on either side, and because we are ONE Nation under God, WE failed together. I am sure every President, Congress-person, or good American would have gladly taken prudent measures to thwart attacks such as those on Tuesday, but even I have to admit that my resolve to do the job right was not adequate until now. Whether it is Reagon or Bush Sr. with a Democratic Congress, or Clinton with a Republican Congress, there is no way there would be unanimous support of any anti-terrorist actions or war as there is now. Please focus on the victims, and funnel your energy in hope, prayer, or whatever positive force that will help America and the World emerge from this better off each passing day.

Ritt,

Thank you for the note, your thoughts, and for doing what you could. You and your friends are in my thoughts and prayers.

All,

Two guys who I consider close friends and who I admire personally are still lost. Richie Stewart and Mike Pelletier were both SLU hockey players in the late 80's and I was honored to play a behind the scenes roll with that team and consider them my friends. I have been deeply concerned about them since I heard of the attack, and now that I have more official news they are unaccounted for I feel sick, depressed and very upset. No one should die like that, or experience such fear. Stewie is one of the nicest guys I have ever known, laid back, funny, and a lover of beer! Pelch was always a real serious, mature, hard working player and person. His beautiful wife and two kids (2 and 6 months) make this possible loss so much more painful. Mike is Canadian, and so this kind of tragedy reaches our brothers accross borders and around the world.

I have not been able to concentrate on work for days, and my thoughts shift to my missing friends and the victims every few seconds. I am sure that I am not unique in this way. I am so hopeful that we can emerge from this a stronger nation, and a more closely bonded country and eradicate evil from this earth.

I find the comments of Ben Franklin interesting. However, as one who travels every week for work, and who is currently stuck in Cincinnati away from my wife and birthday celebration for myself tomorrow in Denver, I do not consider tougher security to be a loss of liberty. It is the loss of life in New York, PA and DC that is a loss of liberty, and a blow to the innocence and/or infallability of Americans on our turf. I lock my car as a precaution against criminals, and don't consider that a loss of liberty. When I fly, I will gladly submit to security measures if it will help. Unfortunately, I think most of us agree, the system still needs a lot of work. If we can put men on the moon, I am sure we can figure it out. I have faith. Thanks to all of you and the uplifting stories that are giving me strength. I read this, and it really makes me so proud to be American, and to know that together we can make good prevail over this evil.

[kurt stutt]

Originally posted by Got 6, Want More
. . . . and because we are ONE Nation under God, . . . .

I don't mean to cause a great discussion or debate, and I don't think there was any intent to insult, but as an atheist, I don't appear to be in your nation. Where would I be then?

[Got 6, Want More]

Cambam and Hank,

I turn 34 tomorrow, and watching the news last night from my hotel room 1,000 miles from home, while watching the wife of my lost friend (Mike Pelletier) and the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald where he and Rich Stewart work, I just lost it. This whole thing has caused me to re-evaluate my priorities, my faith, and beliefs. Never again will I put off hanging out with friends and family and focusing my energies for the good of my brothers, sisters, country and faith.

[PCM]

Thank you for that touching and very moving post, Ritt. And thanks for what you're doing to help out at the scene.

[Got 6, Want More]

Kurt,

If you love America, you obviously belong to this nation. I believe strongly in freedom of religion and our constitutional rights. If you don't love America, you haven't traveled enough because there is no place like it on earth. To each his own! I just hope you are thankful you don't live under Taliban rule where religious thought different than the ruling party are punishable by death.

[Todd Patten]

Kurt -- "One Nation Under God" has been said since before our country was even made official. Please don't turn it around as an athiest/non-athiest argument. I'm not a terribly religious man and I hardly find this phrase offensive.

Got 6 -- I have no problem with secure travel. I would give up some convenience for safety. There is a difference between liberty and convenience. What I refer to are the basic priciples of our governement.

[Da Big Bad Cow]

been out and about for most of the day but its good to see ritt is doing well.....a pretty incredible story he has to tell for sure


GBA

dave

[vicb]

I just wish that all the name calling and rancor on this post would stop. I plan on doing the following and I would hope some of you would take the time to also do this.

While this is a tragic time in our countries history, there are many heroic acts of bravery that have occurred. I'd like to focus on those brave passengers and crew of United Flight 93. One of the passengers had been communicating with their loved ones on a cell phone and knew about the tragedies at the WTC and Pentagon. Some of them, God bless their souls, decided that they would not go down without a fight and decided to try to over power the hijackers. Unfortunately, we all know the results of their bravery. While losing their own lives they probably saved countless other lives on the ground. I would think that a Congressional Medal of Honor should be awarded to those on that plane. I plan to write my congressman asking that they be so honored. I would hope each and everyone of you who have the time to snipe at one another on this board will forget about the bickering and take some time to do likewise.

[phb]

First chance to read this today.

Thanks, Ritt--for helping out and for giving us an idea of what it's like to be at the scene. Outside my door in NH, the world seems so peaceful. But what has played out on my television screen shows it's not. Your firsthand account helps bridge the two worlds.

[Handyman]

Kurt,

I dont think he is including only those of faith, cause I am not a believer in God but i feel apart of this all. He is just quoting the Pledge as a show of unity.

Murray,

I am not going to argue about this...I dont know you but I have the opportunity to talk to Roy a lot and Dude Love and I have a mutual friend so I have met the guy. Please take a step back from what you say and look for a second. Dude Love was making a joke. It was in bad taste no doubt but a joke none the less. He did not mean to offend anyone (this is all assumption, but I would say it is more than an educated guess) and I am sure he regrets his saying what he did. I guess I could be wrong though. I understand why it offended you but I feel your ripping him apart isnt helping at all. I dont care if you like him or anything, but cant you just let it go for now?

Roy is kinda stuck now. He made hs opinion known, Bobo leaped at it and biotched slapped him for it and now he feels the need to defend himself. The retorts were not pleasant, and in fact Bobo was rather cruel to him. Roy is allowed his opinion just like all of us, and jumping down his throat like Bobo did shouldnt happen, not now or ever!! It does unfortunately, and instead of letting it go, he fights on which now causes all this!! Just let it go all of you (Bobo, Roy, Murray and the rest) and lets move on. What do we gain by all this?

I am sorry I am the voice of reason...I am not against Murray or Bobo or anyone else (except maybe VBD but I am not even sure about that). I guess I jst feel now is not the time to let our emotions get the best of us and fight amongst ourselves. I mean lets be honest...SCSU fans and Gopher fans dont mix very well, but here I am defending two of them. Just everyone agree that we dont all think alike and it will make things easier!! And those who feel the need to take pot shots at others need not post anymore, because your input is not needed.

Having to post stuff like this totally drains me :(

Gopher Hockey: Defending our "Husky" friends to the West

[Bobo]

It seems to me this happened because some sick SOB on the other side of the world said, "America goes this far to protect itself?" "I'll go one step further."

We went as far as we thought neccessary and reasonable to ensure our security. Someone will always be willing to go one step further. Can we prevent the unreasonable, the insane, the unthinkable? These guys killed themselves to get to us, we hadn't taken that level of sickness into account. We will now, but it will never be foolproof. We can't account for every insane idea, every madman, we can't protect every single asset. That is life, it doesn't mean stop trying to protect ourselves, it just means be realistic in our expectations. And don't look for easy scapegoats to fool oursleves into thinking we would be safe otherwise.

[Jon]

Good point Bobo.

[Got 6, Want More]

VicB,

That is a very original thought, and a good idea. Does anyone know if you have to be in the military to be honored in such a way as this?

[Handyman]

Originally posted by Bobo
It seems to me this happened because some sick SOB on the other side of the world said, "America goes this far to protect itself?" "I'll go one step further."

We went as far as we thought neccessary and reasonable to ensure our security. Someone will always be willing to go one step further. Can we prevent the unreasonable, the insane, the unthinkable? These guys killed themselves to get to us, we hadn't taken that level of sickness into account. We will now, but it will never be foolproof. We can't account for every insane idea, every madman, we can't protect every single asset. That is life, it doesn't mean stop trying to protect ourselves, it just means be realistic in our expectations. And don't look for easy scapegoats to fool oursleves into thinking we would be safe otherwise.

Bobo, I totally agree with you!!

[dmeans]

cambam, I am a 26 year old man not easily overcome by emotion, and I have had many moments like the one you describe since this horrible tragedy took place. Here are just a few: The interview with the Cantor Fitzgerald CEO, seeing the footage of the Star Spangled Banner being played at Buckingham Palace during the changing of the guard, reading ritt's post at the part where they started sing the anthem in the middle of the night, the singing of God Bless America on the steps of the capital, may of the videos of ground zero. At almost anytime I feel like I could just well up.

[redeagle]

Ritt,

Thanks. I also am thinking of you.


Henry,

Well said. I have mostly lurked, but always wondered why the posters here kept drawing me back. I think I understand better now.


Got 6,

I live less than an hour from Cincy. Can I do anything? If you need anything, post or email me. I'll be out for a while this evening (got a hockey practice with the kids), but otherwise I will be around.

Redeagle

[Husky Fan Roy]

Originally posted by Bobo
It seems to me this happened because some sick SOB on the other side of the world said, "America goes this far to protect itself?" "I'll go one step further."

We went as far as we thought neccessary and reasonable to ensure our security. Someone will always be willing to go one step further. Can we prevent the unreasonable, the insane, the unthinkable? These guys killed themselves to get to us, we hadn't taken that level of sickness into account. We will now, but it will never be foolproof. We can't account for every insane idea, every madman, we can't protect every single asset. That is life, it doesn't mean stop trying to protect ourselves, it just means be realistic in our expectations. And don't look for easy scapegoats to fool oursleves into thinking we would be safe otherwise.

Well said, I can see your point.