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Ralph Baer
09-13-2001, 05:36 PM
My bike route home from work takes me through Bolling AFB and the Naval Air Station. I could not enter Bolling because there was a bomb scare in a Fedex package. (I have heard nothing further, so I assume that it was just a scare.) This caused me to have to ride through sections of DC that I would prefer not to visit.

The death figure estimate from the Pentagon is 190 including the plane.

Randy May
09-13-2001, 05:37 PM
BTW did anyone notice how the press mangled the flight information on the news? The DOT Secretary clearly said flights would begin AT THE EARLIEST Noon Wednesday...and soon all the networks were reporting this as a sure thing and announced after the hour passed that DOT "changed their minds". Woo.

OK minor point but just really ignorant.

Millsy
09-13-2001, 05:43 PM
The problem with the media right now is that they want to "scoop" all the other networks. Didn't they learn from the last Presidential Election? :rolleyes:

Randy May
09-13-2001, 05:46 PM
Regarding all this crap about George Dubya "ducking and running"...POPPYCOCK!!! Rule #1: All persons of (US) high authority have a responsibility to...STAY ALIVE! Then they can actually divy out there auothori-ty more better!!! Get it??? Pretty hard to do it otherwise and it's a pain in the arse having to go through swearing-in when planes are intentionally crashing into all of your citizens!

REDMEN2002
09-13-2001, 05:48 PM
i got this off of alt.prophecies.nostradamus


Nostradamus's calendar is translated to be two yrs behind ours...
He also predicted that it would happen on the ninth month. If
you would understand his predictions better he also said that
the US will attack after the world trade center (2 man-made mountains)
falls. And that Bin Laden (blue turbine man the third antichrist) will
now align with a greater more powerful country (IRAQ). In doing so will
try to attack the US back and other foreign countries (possibly Paris
France)
In which will disturb the people of other Countries, one being Russia who
will strike back with the first nuclear attack against Iraq, Killing one of
the 2 leaders. ( Suddam or Bin Laden) Fast forwarding to the end... After
up to 30 years later only two-thirds of the world will be left standing.
(The Middle East and Russia will be wiped out by the big nuclear war) Which
will leave us with the US and possibly Australia. In which will be followed
by the second return of Christ. Welcome to world war three.... This is
just a very short clear interpretation of the predictions of Nostradamus.

Professional Interpreter,
Matthew
Thank You... Please forward to friends...

Da Big Bad Cow
09-13-2001, 05:55 PM
correct me if im wrong...but there was no US when nostradamus was alive so how he could have predicted anything about it is beyond me

REDMEN2002
09-13-2001, 05:57 PM
well he predicted hitler, and the kennedy assasination, just to name a few....

PCM
09-13-2001, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Da Big Bad Cow
correct me if im wrong...but there was no US when nostradamus was alive so how he could have predicted anything about it is beyond me
Just goes to show you how good he really was. ;)

Ranger
09-13-2001, 05:59 PM
PCM, it's called leadership. Many thought (this includes flag rank officers and civilians) having the President in Washington, DC would have improved our situation -- not only in DC and NYC, but for the nation as a whole. But, in fact, he was out of the public eye for several important hours during the day. Obviously, those of us in the middle of the mess, and with additional information available to us, had a different perspective. Using your logic and security threshold, it would be miraculous if AF One ever got off the ground or the POTUS left the bunker. Anyway, enough wasted debate on this senseless topic.

Handyman
09-13-2001, 06:04 PM
Well I just called Miss Cleo and she said my gf is cheating so there ya go ;) :rolleyes:

PCM
09-13-2001, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Ranger
PCM, it's called leadership.
Pretty tough to lead if you're dead, isn't it?

PCM
09-13-2001, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Handyman
Well I just called Miss Cleo and she said my gf is cheating so there ya go ;) :rolleyes:
Miss Cleo knows that your girlfriend is cheating before you even have one? That's amazing! :D

petey23
09-13-2001, 06:12 PM
The problem with the media is that they keep rephrasing their questions---but they can be summed up a couple of different ways.

"Is there anything that you can say or information you can give that would be helpful to the enemy."

"Is there a chance that maybe we deserved this?"

What the f is wrong with these people?

Randy May
09-13-2001, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Ranger
PCM, it's called leadership. Many thought (this includes flag rank officers and civilians) having the President in Washington, DC would have improved our situation -- not only in DC and NYC, but for the nation as a whole.

Completely and utterly taken out of context. Especially any attributes to "flag rank officers". Those are the first people in our system that will tell you how important it is to increase the safety of your President (and everyone with remotely that much power) in high threat situations. It's literally a by-the-book procedure!!! That's the sole purpose of AF1 as a rule!!! It's designed to fly higher and be as ELUSIVE AS POSSIBLE during times of crisis!!! It's practically in the owners manual that comes with the **** plane!!!

Randy May
09-13-2001, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by petey23
The problem with the media is that they keep rephrasing their questions---but they can be summed up a couple of different ways.

"Is there anything that you can say or information you can give that would be helpful to the enemy."


Remember the SNL skit like that during the Gulf War? It was one of the few skits that couldn't much exaggerate the prepostorousness (word?) of the situation no matter how hard they tried!

petey23
09-13-2001, 06:16 PM
another view of nostradamus

petey23
09-13-2001, 06:17 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/WolfFiles/wolffiles75.html

Handyman
09-13-2001, 06:34 PM
Miss Cleo warned me not to date Sabrina for she may just leave me for Crowley...if only I had heeded the advice (not that we dated, but I persued her vigorously) :(

Ranger
09-13-2001, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Randy May
Completely and utterly taken out of context. Especially any attributes to "flag rank officers".

Maybe you heard something different than I did then. Oh, wait, you were not in the smoke filled E-Wing with me. If I heard it once, I heard it a half dozen times. It's a straight forward leadership issue. I can't explain military code to you if you've never spent quality time in service to the country. If you recall your civics lessons from years ago, you will remember that the POTUS is also the Commander in Chief of the Armed Services. In that role, many believed he should have been there... you may disagree and become emotional about it, but those are the facts. I understand your position/concern. I'm just providing what I experienced... don't attempt to shoot the messenger.

Anyway, what's the deal with the arrests at JFK? Are these suspects who arrived to take flights (which would seem completely idiotic) or are they employees?

Lots of false bomb threats being called in.... I guess this wasn't unexpected.

morgan
09-13-2001, 06:44 PM
Redman2000:

alt.prophesies.nostradamus? And you're buying into this?

Sure you're college material, slugger?