What The Holy Hell Is Going On?

[DavidB]

I am just in a state of shock right now, my heart goes out to everyone involved in this tragedy.

With all these conflicting reports I do not know what to believe, but whether it was Mark Bavis or Ace Bailey on that plane this morning my deepest sympathies to their families. :(

I agree with Scott Murphy, the gloves have to come off on this one, the military needs to strike back and strike back hard.

[Craig P.]

(In reply to Redmen2002's last)
Never mind that melodramatic ****, merely the collateral damage makes nukes a bad idea. With the kind of enemy we face, IMO collateral damage is the <em>last</em> thing we want.

Strike swiftly and with extreme prejudice, but equally importantly, as accurately and as precisely as possible.

[Ralph Baer]

What I want to know is how four flights were boarded by assumedly armed hostages and none of them are stopped by security. It is not that we have heard that several other terrorists were stopped by security. Now, I know that airport security is poor, but is it this bad that four out of four got through?

[DavidB]

It was reorted on channel 5 in Boston, that a flight attendant on one of the Boston flights managed to call the airline to inform them that they were being hijacked and that 2 flight attendents had been stabbed.

I think Americans our going to have to learn to live with increased security at our airports no matter how much inconvenience they may cause.

[NCAA watcher]

Ralph, on CNN they are reporting that two calls from a passenger on the "Pentagon" flight only spoke of box cutters and knives, but several hijackers. All passengers and pilots moved to back of plane.

[REDMEN2002]

IMHO, the US should act quickly, and assasinate bin-Laden. I know it is illegal, but really who gives a s_hit right now?? All is fair in love and war. And if it turns out that bin-Laden was not behind this, then who cares?? He has done enough in Washington's eyes to kill him anyways. Although I'd like to see him captured alive, and have him publically mauled, then executed in the spot where the WTC once stood. Of course, before he dies, it'd be nice to have a ceremonial ground-breaking for the new WTC right in front of the bastard......

[Craig P.]

Originally posted by Ralph Baer
What I want to know is how four flights were boarded by assumedly armed hostages and none of them are stopped by security. It is not that we have heard that several other terrorists were stopped by security. Now, I know that airport security is poor, but is it this bad that four out of four got through? I'm withholding judgement until I hear more about how they evaded security. If they just waltzed through, then this is obviously a serious concern, but I'm holding out hope that they were a little more sophisticated than that.

[NCAA watcher]

Originally posted by Craig P.
Strike swiftly and with extreme prejudice, but equally importantly, as accurately and as precisely as possible.

Bear in mind that much of the animosity with Bin Laden stems from the U.S. missle attacks on the weapon factories which either missed, or were later found to be pharmaceutical factories.

[Scott Murphy]

Originally posted by Ralph Baer
What I want to know is how four flights were boarded by assumedly armed hostages and none of them are stopped by security. It is not that we have heard that several other terrorists were stopped by security. Now, I know that airport security is poor, but is it this bad that four out of four got through?

Ralph, I agree. But airport security IMO is pretty poor, relative to certain parts of Europe and Israel. With inside information, anybody can get into sensitive areas. One of the news stations was reporting a cell phone call from a passenger on one of the liners to her husband. Apparently, the hijackers commandeered the entire plane/crew with pocket knives and box cutters and flew the plane themselves into wherever they went down. Unreal.

[Craig P.]

Originally posted by NCAA watcher
Ralph, on CNN they are reporting that two calls from a passenger on the "Pentagon" flight only spoke of box cutters and knives, but several hijackers. All passengers and pilots moved to back of plane. No question, then, that if they had known what was at stake, they could have overpowered the hijackers. I find it chilling... in that situation, I'd be willing to give my life fighting if I knew I were dead anyway (I don't want to go down without a fight), but obviously no-one wants to do that when the possibility of landing safely remains.

[REDMEN2002]

Originally posted by NCAA watcher


Bear in mind that much of the animosity with Bin Laden stems from the U.S. missle attacks on the weapon factories which either missed, or were later found to be pharmaceutical factories.

I have been watching BBC and it was mentioned earlier that the original animosity stemmed from the US protecting Kuwait. By means of having to go through Saudi Arabia, of whom bin-Laden once lived. What a joke. I'm filled with so much rage that I dunno what to do with myself right now.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[Greyeagle]

Someone just called a radio show in Mpls/St. Paul and said gas in central Iowa was around $3/gal.

We need quick, decisive and complete action. If we're wrong - so be it, but we cannot allow anyone dictate how we live.

[Tom Foolery]

<B><U>BREAKING NEWS:</B></U>

CNN is reporting at least half a dozen explosions in Kabul, Afganistan.

Has the U.S. struck back?

[Craig P.]

Originally posted by NCAA watcher
Bear in mind that much of the animosity with Bin Laden stems from the U.S. missle attacks on the weapon factories which either missed, or were later found to be pharmaceutical factories. Animosity from others, perhaps, but Bin Laden was a known anti-U.S. fanatic from before the missile attacks. The problem there was that while swift and prejudiced, they weren't particularly accurate or precise.

[Scott Murphy]

CNN has footage rolling from Kabul, fires burning. It's modest start and I hope it keeps rolling for months.

[Ralph Baer]

Scott, no doubt that our airport security is lax compared to security elsewhere. I have been through Israeli security on five occasions. I just feel that someone should have been stopped. Even if they only had knives and box cutters as NCAA WAtcher stated, that should have been caught by security. I mean, my belt buckle is usually caught when I fly out of LGA. Perhaps these people entered with ground crews.

Another odd thing was how few people were on these planes, about sixty or so on each. 757's and 767's usually have at least double that.

[Da Big Bad Cow]

Originally posted by Scott Murphy
CNN has footage rolling from Kabul, fires burning. It's modest start and I hope it keeps rolling for months.


gogogogogogogogo!!!!

[Craig P.]

I just hope that

a) They hit what their aiming for
b) They're aiming for the right things.

[Handyman]

Someone mentioned Independance Day...I was thinking of another movie but the name escapes me. "The Siege" I believe or something...

And please stop showing multiangle shots of the plane hitting the building, I almost puked when I saw it again and again and again!!

[Craig P.]

I should add - I'm worried that we are acting in too much haste, striking before we have a clear picture of what it is we should be striking at. If we hit the wrong things, as with the attacks in the Sudan, it may very well do more harm than good. I'm all in favor of a measured military response, but I worry that this one has not been measured enough.