What The Holy Hell Is Going On?

[Hammy]

brimac,

I guess my question to you would be do you feel that if we try some diplomatic approach, do you really think that its going to work? I really don't think so.

To me, this is a time when we need to use aggressive action because if we take some passive attitude toward this, its only going encourage those terrorists that we won't do anything. We need to find out who the people are behind this and make sure they are brought down for it.

[HankWP]

... how in the hell do you find out who is responsible for this? It could be US people... it could be anyone! How on earth those law enforcement guys do it - I do not know... but I hope to God they find out quickly...

I worry that some nut job (or jobs) will call the FBI claiming to have done this because of McVeigh... the whole thing is unreal and reprehensible...

H-

[Melandry]

But who do we go to war with? You can go to war against a country, but how do you go to war against a possibly scattered, hard to find group of terrorists? We can't just bomb anyone who appears happy to hear this news, as much as we'd all like to...

Incidentally, where might be a good place to give blood here in Boston? I'm very new here and I'm not really having luck with the yellow pages or internet stuff. I'm in Brookline.

[HankWP]

truth be told.. I'd rather the US did not go out and start bombing who they/we think is responsible... it may only incite more actions like today... but then again, we cannot live in fear... the terrorsts were 'successful' today... they distrupted our lives, killed innocent people, ruined lives and property... more than al of that, "they woke a sleeping giant"...

Henry.

[Kelly Ann]

There is an American Red Cross located on Columbus Ave in Boston. The phone number there is 617-375-0700. I'm sure they can tell you the best place to go.

[Tom Foolery]

WBZ is reporting that the Red Cross in the metro Boston area is asking people to wait until <B><U>tomorrow</U></B> to donate blood - right now they are swamped with people and do not have the resources in place.

[Jim W]

No doubt about it that this is an act of war. If they can't pin it on a country then they need to spend as much resources as it takes to hunt down and kill anyone and everyone that was in any way responsible for today's events. That includes people that knew about it but didn't do anything to stop it (e.g. The Taliban).

Melandry, Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE. They'll tell you where the nearest place is.

[U2Bad1]

That's not the point.. as Newt gingrich put it, whoever is responsible wouldn't be able to accomplish this unless there was a country that would be able to harbor such acttivity.

[JF_Gophers]

Yeah I wouldn't blame the middle east yet. We blamed them for Oklahoma City, and it wasn't them. Let's wait till we have facts, not speculation.

Of course our enemies will celebrate, but it doesn't mean they were responsible.

I walked past the Fed Reserve here (I work across the street from it), guards outside patting people who enter down. but no visible weapons or anything.

[unofan]

I believe it was Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel who said that we are essentially at war, and I happen to agree with him. We need to bomb the hell out of whoever did this, be it a soverign nation, Bin Laden's camps, Palestine, or whoever.

Diplomacy won't work. I'm sickened by the thought that Nebraska's other senator, Ben Nelson, has said that we need to try to find a peaceful solution first. How can there be a peaceful solution with terrorists or nations harboring terrorists?

I also think that any credibility Palestine had in peace talks with Israel went out the window with the shots showing them celebrating the WTC destruction. If they're going to cheer over 10,000+ civilians dying, then **** them.

[Hammy]

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean just go around bombing everybody in sight. I just think they need to find out as quickly as possible who is behind this and make sure that they are dealt with in a severe manner. I don't think we should take a passive approach to this.

[JuveGG24]

Hey, I'm here in DC at Georgetown. The Pentagon is about 2 miles away, if even that. You can see the hole from the campus. I couldn't look for more than a couple seconds, it made me sick to my stomach.

[gophergutz]

Originally posted by brimac10
ABC quoted someone as saying "We are now essentially at war" and talking about securing borders.

Isn't this overreacting? Do we really need to bomb the Middle East? Won't that just instigate another attack on our soil? We don't need to "turn sand to glass" - there are ways to find and punish who did this without causing a war.

brimac10,

it is in fact an act of war, it was reported on foxnews that more people will have died from this incident than the pearl harbor attack. the infamous newt gingrich was also interviewed about the attack and what response should be taken......and he actually made some intelligent comments. a reporter asked newt "how do you go to war against a possibly small group or few individuals (ie.terrorist group)"

newt......."this wasnt' the act of a few guys making plans out their trailer house" "this was carried out by a highly funded$$, organized faction" "it takes more than a few guys to carry out a terrorist act of this magnitude" "the U.S. should make it plain and simple when it tries to find these cowardly terrorists.......if your not in the fight against terrorism, your part of the problem it"

I take that as a warning to Afghanistan for harboring binladen's *****. So they should EXPECT miliatrary action.

[PaulaW]

Here's the latest from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1537000/1537469.stm

[HankWP]

I agree with all of you... but remember how the Soviets fared in Afghanistan....

Henry.

[Jim W]

The Soviets didn't learn from our experience in Vietnam. If Afghanistan is found to have had prior knowledge of the attack then this, IMO, would be an all out cruise missle and carpet bombing attack using the full force of our military.

[dainthomas]

brimac10:

Here are some facts:

1. Bin Laden predicted an attack against the US, therefore he is responsible.
2. Bin Laden lives in Afghanistan.
3. The Taliban know he lives in Afghanistan, but won't hand him over to us.

The course of action seems fairly simple. Tell them to apprehend him and turn him over to us. If they are unwilling to cooperate, we will assume they supported the attack and will take appropriate action.

Everyone saw how we didn't do squat when they bombed the USS Cole last year, so now they think they can do whatever they want while we "investigate". The line must be drawn right here, any nation that doesn't support us now is our enemy.

[HankWP]

Rockets from the distance... red with glare... that I agree with... ground pounders... no way...

This whole day is sad... most people at genzyme are in a state of shock, some men had tears in their eyes... some just could no believe what is going on...

Hopefully, it is over... it seemed as though the attacks were carefully planned well in advance, for the logistics are quite complicated... hopefully it is all over, and we can search for survivors and start the healing process...

This day, affects every American. No longer are we safe within our borders... as our Brit friend below indicated, he lived with this everyday... however, we have not... no one has dared to kick us in the nuts... things will never be the same again...

Henry.

[brimac10]

So you bomb Afganistan if they don't turn the guy over. Then a radical group with their hands on a nuclear missile gets upset and points it at the Capitol building.

Sure, it's a blatant attack on our country and obviously thousands of people will have died. But is escalating it the right strategy? Most civilized countries are going to support the United States (I would assume) and reparations against responsible countries don't have to involve bombings, do they? That just induces retaliation back at us.

[HankWP]

If... it is found that the Country of Afghanistan KNEW of this attack... then things are much different...

Henry.