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d3hockey57
02-18-2017, 10:48 PM
Preseason Poll

1. St. Norbert: 96 points, 6 first-place votes
2. Adrian: 95, 5 first-place votes
3. St. Scholastica: 79
4. Marian: 72
5. Concordia: 58
T6. Lawrence: 50
T6. MSOE: 50
8. Lake Forest: 45
9. Northland: 29
10. Aurora: 19
11. Finlandia: 12


Regular Season Final Standings

# Team Pts W L T GF GA Overall Change In Position
1. Adrian 34 17-3-0 99 - 39 18-5-2 +1
2. St. Norbert 29 15-4-1 78 - 31 19-5-1 -1
3. Marian 25 12-7-1 64 - 56 14-9-2 +1
4. Lake Forest 24 12-8-0 70 - 57 16-9-0 +4
5. MSOE 22 9-7-4 59 - 56 12-8-5 +1
6. St. Scholastica 21 10-9-1 69 - 66 12-12-1 -3
7. Concordia 21 10-9-1 56 - 60 13-11-1 -2
8. Northland 19 9-10-1 69 - 72 11-12-2 +1
9. Lawrence 13 5-12-3 49 - 61 6-16-3 -3
10. Aurora 10 4-14-2 38 - 79 4-19-2 0
11. Finlandia 0 0-20-0 25 - 99 0-25-0 0


Playoff Series Matchups
North
#1 St. Norbert
#2 St. Scholastica vs. #3 Northland

South
#1 Adrian
#2 Marian vs. #3 Lake Forest

GB Puck Fan
02-18-2017, 11:07 PM
Adrian is the clear favorite heading into the playoffs. SNC better win its semifinal game to - hopefully - secure a NCAA bid.

Tom Coughlin
02-19-2017, 03:32 PM
Adrian seems to be peaking at the right time. It's going to be tough for anybody to beat them at the Arrington.

It's tough to see MSOE get left out of the playoffs in favor of an 8th place Northland team. The top 3 teams from each division thing really only makes sense if you play more games in the division than out of the division. When everybody plays the exact same schedule they should take the top 6 teams.

I'm hoping with the addition of Trine next year they move to a play everybody in your division twice plus 2 games against 4 teams from the opposite division schedule. Or two in division and one out of division.

GB Puck Fan
02-19-2017, 04:09 PM
Let's be honest. The only reason for the divisions for the playoffs is so that Adrian doesn't have to play Scholastica on a Wednesday night. It's all about minimizing travel and nothing to do with fairness.

NUProf
02-19-2017, 05:18 PM
Let's be honest. The only reason for the divisions for the playoffs is that Adrian doesn't have to play Scholastica on a Wednesday night. It's all about minimizing travel and nothing to do with fairness.

The solution to that - don't play on Wednesday. Seems like hockey playoffs are becoming more and more like basketball playoffs

d3hockey57
02-20-2017, 10:31 AM
Adrian seems to be peaking at the right time. It's going to be tough for anybody to beat them at the Arrington.

It's tough to see MSOE get left out of the playoffs in favor of an 8th place Northland team. The top 3 teams from each division thing really only makes sense if you play more games in the division than out of the division. When everybody plays the exact same schedule they should take the top 6 teams.

I'm hoping with the addition of Trine next year they move to a play everybody in your division twice plus 2 games against 4 teams from the opposite division schedule. Or two in division and one out of division.

Have there been any announcements on how the addition of Trine will affect the division makeup (they are not playoff eligible until the 18-19 season)? Schedule? 22 conference games? 16 conference games (which leaves 9 out-of-conference games which might help the WIAC fill their schedule)? Will Marian be placed in the North Division? Out of division single game paired travel: Adrian-Trine, Lake Forest-Aurora, MSOE-Concordia, Northland-St. Scholastica, Lawrence-Marian-St. Norbert, and Finlandia?

Tom Coughlin
02-20-2017, 10:38 AM
I had read somewhere that they are cutting back to 18 conference games. That lends itself to a 5 x 2 in division plus 4 x 2 out of division (with zero games against two out of division opponents). Marian joining the North makes sense geographically and would help the competitive balance between the two divisions (the South is clearly much more competitive at the moment).

NUProf
02-20-2017, 01:55 PM
I had read somewhere that they are cutting back to 18 conference games. That lends itself to a 5 x 2 in division plus 4 x 2 out of division (with zero games against two out of division opponents). Marian joining the North makes sense geographically and would help the competitive balance between the two divisions (the South is clearly much more competitive at the moment).

I guess with your travel distances, something like 5 X 2, and 4 X 1 and 2 X 2 wouldn't work. You don't have enough teams close together to do a travel partner weekend like we do in the east.

Sir Nubs
02-20-2017, 07:27 PM
I guess with your travel distances, something like 5 X 2, and 4 X 1 and 2 X 2 wouldn't work. You don't have enough teams close together to do a travel partner weekend like we do in the east.

This is just wrong. You'll likely see Adrian-Trine, Aurora-Lake Forest, MSOE-CUW, Marian-Lawrence, CSS-Northland and SNC-Finlandia as travel partners. The only long hop is SNC-FU.

NUProf
02-20-2017, 09:04 PM
This is just wrong. You'll likely see Adrian-Trine, Aurora-Lake Forest, MSOE-CUW, Marian-Lawrence, CSS-Northland and SNC-Finlandia as travel partners. The only long hop is SNC-FU.

My knowledge of your geography is limited, but this would mean that you could schedule weekends at travel partner sites to make it possible for every team in league to play every team at least once. That just seems more balanced.

Sir Nubs
02-20-2017, 10:38 PM
My knowledge of your geography is limited, but this would mean that you could schedule weekends at travel partner sites to make it possible for every team in league to play every team at least once. That just seems more balanced.

But you just said the NCHA doesn't have enough teams close together to use travel partners...and now you claim knowledge of geography out here is limited. Which is it?

joecct
02-21-2017, 05:39 AM
But you just said the NCHA doesn't have enough teams close together to use travel partners...and now you claim knowledge of geography out here is limited. Which is it?

As Carol Baker once said, "It's a big country."

altazo
02-21-2017, 11:48 AM
Duh, clearly Adrian and Finlandia would be travel partners. They are the only two D3 programs in the state of Michigan after all...

Sir Nubs
02-21-2017, 11:51 AM
As Carol Baker once said, "It's a big country."

That's why Rand McNally makes atlases. Crack one open once in a while.

Sir Nubs
02-21-2017, 11:51 AM
Duh, clearly Adrian and Finlandia would be travel partners. They are the only two D3 programs in the state of Michigan after all...

I believe that is the Sarcasm Alarm I hear in the background.

NUProf
02-21-2017, 05:06 PM
But you just said the NCHA doesn't have enough teams close together to use travel partners...and now you claim knowledge of geography out here is limited. Which is it?

You know sometimes people come into a thread looking for information. If I knew the answers to the questions I wouldn't ask. Relax. I made my original statement because I don't really know where the locations of all the NCHA programs are, especially with the recent additions. From everything I have ever read, every time the subject of travel partners comes up, the response is that there aren't enough programs close together to do it.

Sir Nubs
02-22-2017, 04:24 PM
You don't have enough teams close together to do a travel partner weekend like we do in the east.

This sure sounds like a definitive statement to me. If you were looking for information, a question such as, "Do you have enough teams close together to do a travel partner weekend like we do in the east?" would have been asked, I assume.

NUProf
02-22-2017, 04:49 PM
This sure sounds like a definitive statement to me. If you were looking for information, a question such as, "Do you have enough teams close together to do a travel partner weekend like we do in the east?" would have been asked, I assume.

I was echoing what I had read from others. I assumed it was correct. What is your problem?

Sir Nubs
02-22-2017, 08:38 PM
I was echoing what I had read from others. I assumed it was correct. What is your problem?

I don't have a problem. I'm just waiting for you to explain why you walked back your definitive statement once it was shown you were wrong?

GB Puck Fan
02-23-2017, 08:16 AM
Marian beats LFC, 5-2.

Highlights:
http://fox11online.com/sports/college/marian-advances-to-ncha-harris-cup-semifinal

Marian travels to Adrian.

CSS beat Northland 3-1. Saints travel to De Pere.