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  • 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

    South Division
    Marian hosts Concordia
    Adrian gets bye

    North Division
    CSS hosts Lawrence
    SNC gets bye
    St. Norbert College Green Knights
    NCHA regular season champs: 97-99, 02-08, 10-12, 14, 16, 19
    NCHA playoff champs: 98-99, 03-05, 07-08, 10-14, 17-19, 24
    NCAA Champions: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
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    SNC women: 2013 O'Brien Cup Champions

  • #2
    Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

    Of course, they couldn't just make this that easy.

    Not quite that simple
    FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


    God, that was fun...

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    • #3
      Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

      Originally posted by Hammer View Post
      Of course, they couldn't just make this that easy.

      Not quite that simple
      Did I goof up the pairings?

      Or is that a reference to the possibility (fact?) that this playoff setup is screwy?
      St. Norbert College Green Knights
      NCHA regular season champs: 97-99, 02-08, 10-12, 14, 16, 19
      NCHA playoff champs: 98-99, 03-05, 07-08, 10-14, 17-19, 24
      NCAA Champions: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
      ---
      SNC women: 2013 O'Brien Cup Champions

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      • #4
        Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

        Originally posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
        Did I goof up the pairings?

        Or is that a reference to the possibility (fact?) that this playoff setup is screwy?
        No. Wednesday's pairings are correct. We got that part right. It was the only thing the NCHA did right this year, making the play-in games easy to figure out.

        But there is a re-seed after those games. As I said last week or so, we played an entire season with divisions for two playoff games on a Wednesday night. After that it goes by strict conference point totals. They didn't need to make it this ****ed complicated.
        Last edited by Hammer; 02-20-2016, 10:22 PM.
        FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


        God, that was fun...

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        • #5
          Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

          Well, let's see if they accomplished a presumed goal of avoiding an ultra-long road trip.

          Standings without divisions:
          1. Adrian
          2. SNC
          3. Marian
          4. Scholastica
          5. Lawrence
          6. MSOE
          7. Concordia
          8. Lake Forest
          9. Northland
          10. Aurora
          11. Finlandia

          So, that makes the first round pairings under the old system:
          Adrian-Lake Forest
          SNC-Concordia
          Marian-MSOE
          Scholastica-Lawrence

          And the dreaded Adrian/CSS or Adrian/Findlandia road trip would not have materialized...

          Or, no divisions with six teams in a B1G format:
          MSOE-Marian
          Scholastica-Lawrence
          Adrian & SNC first round byes

          Again, no "killer" first round road trips, if my math is right...
          St. Norbert College Green Knights
          NCHA regular season champs: 97-99, 02-08, 10-12, 14, 16, 19
          NCHA playoff champs: 98-99, 03-05, 07-08, 10-14, 17-19, 24
          NCAA Champions: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
          ---
          SNC women: 2013 O'Brien Cup Champions

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          • #6
            Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

            So, basically, we would have avoided a long trip in the first place, and even after this nonsense of a playoff system we have now, we're still staring at the potential of St Scholastica playing Wednesday night, then flying to Adrian (as heard on CSS's broadcast this evening) to play Friday-Saturday.

            I'd still love to know what they think they accomplished here.
            FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


            God, that was fun...

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            • #7
              Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

              So top 6 teams not in playoffs? That makes no sense!

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              • #8
                Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                Yes, and then there's that, too. MSOE finishes sixth overall and they're done. And next year they swap divisions. With luck like that, watch it happen to them again.

                This whole thing has been over-thought by about a mile and a half.
                FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


                God, that was fun...

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                • #9
                  Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                  Originally posted by d3guy View Post
                  So top 6 teams not in playoffs? That makes no sense!
                  That depends on your point of view, I guess.

                  The top three in each division made it... but as happens in other leagues, the 4th in the south had more points than the 3rd in the north. The difference here, IIRC, is that all teams played everyone twice - there was a balanced schedule. So, some of us are confused as to why the divisions were created...

                  About the only thing some of us have can think of is that they wanted to avoid an ultra-long road trip in the first round. But that wouldn't have happened anyway, it turns out.
                  St. Norbert College Green Knights
                  NCHA regular season champs: 97-99, 02-08, 10-12, 14, 16, 19
                  NCHA playoff champs: 98-99, 03-05, 07-08, 10-14, 17-19, 24
                  NCAA Champions: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
                  ---
                  SNC women: 2013 O'Brien Cup Champions

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                  • #10
                    Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                    Well, the chalk held tonight, which is about what we expected. We have:

                    CSS at Adrian
                    Marian at SNC
                    FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


                    God, that was fun...

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                    • #11
                      Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                      Can either Marian or CSS force a DMG?

                      SNC was effective in shutting down the Sabres offense, allowing just 12 SOG. If the Knights do that again tonight, I'd think SNC can salvage at least a tie.

                      Busy day in De Pere, as the men's and women's basketball teams host conference title games. Those are 3 & 6pm, so could impact hockey attendance again.
                      St. Norbert College Green Knights
                      NCHA regular season champs: 97-99, 02-08, 10-12, 14, 16, 19
                      NCHA playoff champs: 98-99, 03-05, 07-08, 10-14, 17-19, 24
                      NCAA Champions: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
                      ---
                      SNC women: 2013 O'Brien Cup Champions

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                      • #12
                        Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                        Originally posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
                        Can either Marian or CSS force a DMG?
                        If Adrian plays for 60 minutes today like they did for 52 yesterday, then no. If there's anything else, then any and all bets are off.
                        FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


                        God, that was fun...

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                        • #13
                          Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                          Marian made it interesting for a bit - cutting SNC's 4-0 lead in half - but ultimately the early 3-0 hole was just too big for the Sabres

                          A very entertaining game in the stands, too. It was as lively as I have seen the CCC. Marian brought lots of fans and lots of good signs. Many directed at Coach Aitken, but others too. Perhaps most original/odd was "SNC supports ISIS". SNC students were involved the whole game and good signs, too.

                          So, on to Adrian next week for likely a title doubleheader....
                          St. Norbert College Green Knights
                          NCHA regular season champs: 97-99, 02-08, 10-12, 14, 16, 19
                          NCHA playoff champs: 98-99, 03-05, 07-08, 10-14, 17-19, 24
                          NCAA Champions: 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
                          ---
                          SNC women: 2013 O'Brien Cup Champions

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                          • #14
                            Re: 2016 NCHA Harris Cup Playoffs

                            I think that's going to be a Saturday/Sunday affair.
                            FERRIS STATE UNIVERSITY: 2012 FROZEN FOUR


                            God, that was fun...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
                              Marian made it interesting for a bit - cutting SNC's 4-0 lead in half - but ultimately the early 3-0 hole was just too big for the Sabres

                              A very entertaining game in the stands, too. It was as lively as I have seen the CCC. Marian brought lots of fans and lots of good signs. Many directed at Coach Aitken, but others too. Perhaps most original/odd was "SNC supports ISIS". SNC students were involved the whole game and good signs, too.

                              So, on to Adrian next week for likely a title doubleheader....
                              Nice to see the fans getting into it tonight. It's been years since I've heard it lime it was tonight. At least 7.
                              Props to Marian. That's a solid squad. A.J. created a culture there and now they're reaping the benefits.
                              At first I wasn't thrilled about SNC having to leave the old NCHA because the competition wasn't as good in the MCHA, but that has changed quickly. I believe a new rivalry was born this weekend.

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